Re: [Hornlist] RE: tuning

2003-11-13 Thread Graeme Evans
Hans wrote: > If the pitch goes that high, it is terribly difficult for the singers. But > A=452, I cannot believe. Tuning pitch in England seemed to fly up to quite high values in the latter 1/2 of the 19th century. I don't know why - it seems crazy, but there is some quite interesting data on t

Re: [Hornlist] RE: tuning

2003-11-13 Thread Hans Pizka
If the pitch goes that high, it is terribly difficult for the singers. But A=452, I cannot believe. The cause for high pitch in the pit are the strings indeed and some crazy oboists, eventually bringing in trouble themselves. We have to resist all these tendencies, odd course as we would ruin the

[Hornlist] RE: tuning

2003-11-13 Thread John Dutton
Herb wrote: I have wondered how players with horns with short tuning slides, such as 8Ds, manage to follow the different pitch standards and different temperatures we play in. On my 8D the tuning slide was almost all the way in when it was cold and falling out on a hot day. Geyer/Knopf wrap horns h

Re: [Hornlist] Air Speed

2003-11-13 Thread David Jewell
Hi folks - its my understanding that air speed is independent of frequency. The frequency doubles at the octave, a on the top line of the bass clef is 220 hz, while a second space treble clef is 440 hz. I would think that if different frequencies are promulgated (how's that for a $2.00 scienti

Re: [Hornlist] Re: tuning

2003-11-13 Thread Herbert Foster
I have wondered how players with horns with short tuning slides, such as 8Ds, manage to follow the different pitch standards and different temperatures we play in. On my 8D the tuning slide was almost all the way in when it was cold and falling out on a hot day. Geyer/Knopf wrap horns have a longer

[Hornlist] Re: high D in Haydn symphony N.99

2003-11-13 Thread Daniel Canarutto
Many thanks to all those who answered my question about the high D. As we have a new conductor I did not feel like introducing myself as: "Hey, I wan't play that...", but in the first rehearsal I played the D one octave lower and he did not say anything. So I guess it will be all right. And I d

Re: [Hornlist] Air Speed

2003-11-13 Thread Chris Tedesco
I've been told that air speed doubles at the octave. Was this merely a convention for teaching, like sayin use warm or cold air, or is it physically correct? Assuming the above is correct, playing lower would I suppose be slower air speed, but it would seem to be expelled much faster than playin

Re: [Hornlist] Building proficiency

2003-11-13 Thread Peter W. Schroth
Dave Powers wrote: > > To Anyone: > I switched from trombone (after 40 yrs.) to Horn in August. > Some thoughts from one who's been working on the same problem: 1. On the trombone, each note can be perfectly centered by putting the slide in the right place. You learn the 50 o

Re: [Hornlist] Re: tuning

2003-11-13 Thread Chris Tedesco
I talked to one of my professors about this recently and he commented that he doesn't really like to sing with period ensembles(although he does it fairly often), because the pitches set lower in his voice than he is used to. He doesn't have perfect pitch, but I bet it feels kind of strange to pra

[Hornlist] Horns Needed in Houston

2003-11-13 Thread Ralph Gutierrez
ATTENTION HOUSTON AREA HORN PLAYERS!!We have immediate openings for 3rd & 4th HornsThe Lone Star Symphonic Band is an adult organization composed of over 120 musicians from Houston and surrounding areas. Founded in 1993, the band provides a challenging musical environment for musicians. We perf

[Hornlist] Air Speed

2003-11-13 Thread tthomp
Hoss says, "If one wants to play low it requires a slow air stream, if one wants to play high a faster air stream is needed. So yes air speed does affect what note or frequency we play." Here's a thread for you: a) does the readership agree b) if so, how do you, personally, go about chan

Re: [Hornlist] Re: tuning

2003-11-13 Thread David Jewell
Robert - I agree about the challenges of tuning modern instruments to a lower pitch. Since most (notable Alexander,) are now manufactured to at least 442, trying to go lower than 435 would be horrendous. I really only meant that it would certainly be worthwhile for more groups to try it out. I h

[Hornlist] Re: tuning

2003-11-13 Thread Robert Marlatt
A few thoughts on this subject... The Boston Symphony purposely tunes higher than 440, 442 I believe, and they tune to an electronically generated tone, not the principal oboist. Boston/New England freelance orchestras tune to 440, but the pitch ALWAYS rises. I dabble in period instrument work