To explain the mechanism of the Viennese valve:
Have a look to the main tuning slide of your horn, right. It
consists of a tube inside another tube on both shanks.
Understood ? Right ! The slide is pulled, so to make the
tube longer, o.k. !
See the two tubes (pistons) of the Viennese valve simila
Greg Campbell wrote:
- much good explanation about vienna and piston valves snipped -
> Of course the easiest way to understand is to examine one closely.
Would that this were not an expensive proposition. Nothing would delight me
more than to own examples of each.
Thanks very much - I will re
Steve Freides wrote:
What is the difference between a piston valve and a Vienna valve?
Until this point, I had assumed they were the same thing.
Vienna horn pistons actually slide through the tubing in which the air
travels through the valve. Regular (trumpet) pistons operate
perpendicular to
I have a Besson Eb tuba and Besson baritone with compensating valves
that have enough ports to make a double, so it can be done on a very
high quality instrument, but they are quite long. I also have a rotary
cornet which, when used for the Carnival of Venice, by a good player,
instantly demons
He was certainly alive and teaching in Melbourne a few weeks ago
Chris W
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> Actually he "came back" a few y
Thank you, Scott.
http://www.andrewpelletier.com/plate5.htm
shows a Vienna valve, and perhaps my confusion arises in part from the fact
that the mechanism looks very much like what I see when I take apart my
son's trumpet, namely a piston moving up and down within a cylinder-shaped
tube. What is
From: "Steve Freides" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
why do modern horns use rotor valves and not piston valves? Everything I
have read
suggests that piston valves are superior
Steve,
Modern manufacturing has made this moot, but this was the "old school"
thoughts on the matter:
Piston Valves ar
Actually he "came back" a few years ago and was subbing with Baltimore. I
think I recently heard that he is now back in Australia teaching.
Chris
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> Perhaps it was a reference to his retirement from playing which is a loss
> really!
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We talked about a double with piston valves. And I stated
that I played a compensating Selmer with ascending 3rd valve
for four years.
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I heard that on WRR as well, I discounted it immediately because last
weekend they aired the Strauss 2nd Horn Concerto played by a trombonist. I
tried not to be too damned pedantic, but there are just something I can't
abide.
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Perhaps it was a reference to his retirement from playing which is a loss
really!
Simon
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Hey everyone,
I was
Duh! I don't think so! Methinks he is in Australia, which might be as
good as dead.
Mansur's Answer
On Monday, March 13, 2006, at 01:51 PM, Omar Kolaghassi wrote:
Hey everyone,
I was listening to my classical station a few days ago when they
announced they would air a concerto played by
The claim is as follows, I've trimmed this down to one vaguely music
related. From my dealings with the folks in Oz a few years ago, I can
believe that it is as claimed.
The questions below about Australia, are from potential visitors. They were
posted on an Australian Tourism Website and the
Hey everyone,
I was listening to my classical station a few days ago when they announced
they would air a concerto played by Barry Tuckwell who unfortunately was lost
to us a couple weeks or years agoI was out of the horn scene for about a
year, so did he die in that span of a year whe
On Monday, March 13, 2006, at 12:14 PM, Steve Freides wrote:
From this picture, it seems that the "throw" of a piston valve is
fairly
long compared to the relatively short distance one must depress the
lever on
a rotor valve - is that right?
Quite correct. These have no relationship to V
>From this picture, it seems that the "throw" of a piston valve is fairly
long compared to the relatively short distance one must depress the lever on
a rotor valve - is that right?
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At 5:43 PM +0100 3/13/06, Hans.Pizka wrote:
It is quite complicate to construct full double horns with
piston valves, as said earlier, while compensating horns are
built by the Selmer company. They also might have pictures
on their web site.
http://www.public.asu.edu/~jqerics/Selmer.jpg
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m
Sorry, Steve, this is misunderstood completely and has
nothing to do with a piston horn. Well, even Dr.Mansur
miscalculated things. A Viennese Pumpenhorn has two pistons
for every valve plus the additional long handle & the
connector between the two pistons. This equals the weight of
the doublehorn
Hans Pizka wrote:
-snip-
> Question: why should a piston valve horn sound better than a
> rotary valve horn ?
>From http://www.andrewpelletier.com/vienna.htm - which includes you as one
of the resources:
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What makes this instrument so incredible and different from the rotor va
This was the case for most languages until they standardized
them.
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In a message dated 3/13/2006 12:40:33 A.M. Central Standard Time,
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May-be, the piston valve requires more bends in the
tubes than on the rotary valve double horn.
I was thinking about that, too. I've never seen a piston valved double horn
- only a single horn so
In a message dated 13/03/2006 13:27:44 GMT Standard Time, Ralph writes:
one
day, English as I speak it will be as remote and inaccessible to future
generations as the Canterbury Tales are to me
Chaucer innaccessible? Try the Anglo Saxon Chronicles! (or Deor - see below)
All the b
Not true. Your 6D had rotor's, didn't it? 8D's had rotors, too. By WWII,
American companies were making rotor valves. Reynolds, King and Conn made
single F's for the military as they were easy to build and most important,
cheap to buy. The Conn 2D, and the early Buescher doubles used
Ralph wrote:
Old guys like me lament that the younger generation has no respect for or
even knowledge of
my language as it was taught to me, ignoring that English used to look and
sound the way Chaucer wrote it, and that one
day, English as I speak it will be as remote and inaccessible t
At least for the English language as spoken in the US, standardized spelling
of words did not come about until after the War Between the States (1860s).
If you read the original journals of officers from that period you can even
see several spellings of the same word through out their work.
Certai
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