Re: [Hornlist] Receiver size on Selman double horn

2009-05-01 Thread Herbert Foster
List horn@music.memphis.edu Sent: Friday, May 1, 2009 1:08:31 AM Subject: RE: [Hornlist] Receiver size on Selman double horn Every time this subject comes up I wonder about the symantics. Is it venturi or ventura? I finally spent five seconds looking it up and learned Giovanni Battista Venturi

RE: [Hornlist] Receiver size on Selman double horn

2009-05-01 Thread John Kowalchuk
- From: horn-bounces+hornontario=yahoo...@music.memphis.edu [mailto:horn- bounces+hornontario=yahoo...@music.memphis.edu] On Behalf Of Herbert Foster Sent: Friday, May 01, 2009 8:39 AM To: The Horn List Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Receiver size on Selman double horn Thank you, John, for setting us

Re: [Hornlist] Receiver size on Selman double horn

2009-05-01 Thread daniel . canarutto
- Message from herb_fos...@yahoo.com - Thank you, John, for setting us straight. Ventura bothered me subliminally. Giovanni Battista Venturi was Italian, so shouldn't the singular be venturo, or is it one ventura, two venture ?-) For many Italian family names the final i is

RE: [Hornlist] Receiver size on Selman double horn

2009-05-01 Thread daniel . canarutto
- Message from hornonta...@yahoo.ca - Veering ever so close to NHR territory, I would suspect that since it is a proper name, Venturi should remain intact. OF COURSE!! Daniel ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options

Re: [Hornlist] Receiver size on Selman double horn

2009-05-01 Thread Steve Freides
Folks, I bought the proper tool with which to measure these things (thanks to Paul for pointing me to an ebay auction), and I will report on my findings once it arrives here. -S- On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 7:59 PM, corno...@aol.com wrote: Jeremy wrote: You can have whatever length of taper

Re: [Hornlist] Receiver size on Selman double horn

2009-05-01 Thread David Goldberg
] On Behalf Of Herbert Foster Sent: Friday, May 01, 2009 8:39 AM To: The Horn List Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Receiver size on Selman double horn Thank you, John, for setting us straight. Ventura bothered me subliminally. Giovanni Battista Venturi was Italian, so shouldn't the singular be venturo, or is it one

Re: [Hornlist] Receiver size on Selman double horn

2009-04-30 Thread Tina Barkan
Paul - You say, The end of the mouthpiece should ideally come right to the beginning of the ventura. If these line up, they provide a taper that expands from the bore of the mouthpiece to the cylindrical tubing of the horn without gaps or obstructions. If the negative taper can vary from

Re: [Hornlist] Receiver size on Selman double horn

2009-04-30 Thread Jeremy Cucco
You can have whatever length of taper you'd like. It's the rate of taper that's important. If the rate of taper of both the leadpipe and the mouthpice are identical (which is an agreed upon standard), then your mouthpiece could go in .1 or 2 and it won't make any difference. That is of

Re: [Hornlist] Receiver size on Selman double horn

2009-04-30 Thread corno911
seriously consistent ventura placement are Walter Lawson's horns. Paul -Original Message- From: Tina Barkan tina.bar...@gmail.com To: The Horn List horn@music.memphis.edu Sent: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 7:13 am Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Receiver size on Selman double horn Paul - You say, The end

Re: [Hornlist] Receiver size on Selman double horn

2009-04-30 Thread corno911
Jeremy wrote: You can have whatever length of taper you'd like. It's the rate of taper that's important. If the rate of taper of both the leadpipe and the mouthpice are identical (which is an agreed upon standard), then your mouthpiece could go in .1 or 2 and it won't make any difference. That

Re: [Hornlist] Receiver size on Selman double horn

2009-04-30 Thread Steve Freides
On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 7:43 PM, Paul wrote: The only way you can tell exactly where the ventura is in a mouthpipe is to measure it . This is done with a small hole gauge. Would you be kind enough to give an example, perhaps a link to somewhere online, of a small hole guage. If it's not

RE: [Hornlist] Receiver size on Selman double horn

2009-04-30 Thread John Kowalchuk
Every time this subject comes up I wonder about the symantics. Is it venturi or ventura? I finally spent five seconds looking it up and learned Giovanni Battista Venturi (1746-1822) discovered the venturi effect which is named after him. So it is one venturi, several venturis. I have

[Hornlist] Receiver size on Selman double horn

2009-04-29 Thread Steve Freides
I am now the not-very-proud owner of Selman double horn, best described here in the past as cheap. Dillon had one for $95, and I've been looking for something to have around to lend out, in particular to our neighbor a few doors down who has expressed interest in playing the French Horn. She's

Re: [Hornlist] Receiver size on Selman double horn

2009-04-29 Thread Carlberg Jones
At 12:06 PM -0400 4/29/09, Steve Freides wrote: Dillon had one for $95 . . . I made a point of specifically asking if the receiver size was standard, and was told it was . . . my mouthpiece goes _way_ too far into it. Seems to me like it's the seller's responsibility to either fix the

Re: [Hornlist] Receiver size on Selman double horn

2009-04-29 Thread Jerryold99
Hi Steve, The Selman is a Chinese horn. I've been through several (10-12) of various configurations and I've found most have receivers that are too large and the venturi locations are unpredictable. Keep in mind that how far the mpc goes into the receiver is less important than where

Re: [Hornlist] Receiver size on Selman double horn

2009-04-29 Thread Steve Freides
Jerry, could you provide an explanation or a link to one that talks about what the venturi is? Thanks. -S- On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 2:10 PM, jerryol...@aol.com wrote: Hi Steve, The Selman is a Chinese horn.  I've been through several (10-12) of various configurations and I've found most

[Hornlist] Receiver size on Selman double horn

2009-04-29 Thread corno911
HI Steve, Here is a very basic answer to your question. A lead pipe has three primary physical components that are important to its acoustical design. They are: A. the negative taper. This is the 1st section (aprox. 1/2 to 1 long) that the mouthpiece fits into. It is called the negative