Those zany trumpet players. In one of my rehearsals today someone was doing something very annoying - but very impressive.
They're one of these players that can easily play up to high F's (although I don't think for very long) on his double horn, and since he got a triple with a high F side he was being silly before rehearsal and was playing some of Strauss 1 up an octave, and even part of Sigfried's horn call up an octave. Yes, up an octave. High G's, and I think he even tried to squeak out a super C. I didn't get a chance to look but he was cheating I think. I found one trick where you sort of cut off the aperture to your embochoure and you can fake high notes. I found though it has absolutely no control and no use whatsoever, and it's rather stupid and I don't reccommend ever doing it at all. What he was doing was annoying to some extent, impressive to another, and in between it was just kind of... silly. I could tell though it involved rediculous pressure. We all have sat next to "show offs" but this takes the cake in my experience so far. Needless to say I wasn't suprised when his lips were shot within a matter of minutes. I wonder why some people when they rehearse just noodle around forever, play every excerpt in the book before rehearsal, play some ungodly etude, etc. It couldn't do oneself any good, and it definately can't do any good to your relationship with your collegues. -William In a message dated 10/20/2003 2:31:47 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Subj: Re: [Hornlist] High Bb Horns? > Date: 10/20/2003 2:31:47 PM Pacific Daylight Time > From: <A HREF="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">[EMAIL PROTECTED]</A> > Reply-to: <A HREF="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">[EMAIL PROTECTED]</A> > To: <A HREF="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">[EMAIL PROTECTED]</A> > Sent from the Internet > > > > In a message dated 10/20/2003 5:16:03 AM Pacific Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > > >I was curious to why high Bb descant horns were invented and what they are > >of > >use for. High F descant horns put everything an octave above the low F side > > >and it shifts the partials enough to make a high C the 8th harmonic instead > > >of > >the 16th harmonic on the standard F side and the 12th on the standard Bb > >side. > > > > > >Wouldn't a high Bb horn switch the high C and those below it to the sixth > >partial and below? Then the fundamental would be the F below middle C, and > >anything above the 8th partial would be just rediculously high and probably > > >impossible to cleanly play on a standard mouthpiece. Of course, I've heard > >trumpet > >players with corni da caccia (note the plural form) playing in the high F > >range > >and even a recording of the Naruda Concerto up an octave on I think either > a > > > >"da caccia" or high Bb horn, but those were trumpet players used to that. > > > >So what is the basic premise for these instruments? Is it for the really > >REALLY high stuff? Is it to make high horn playing sound better somehow > >since the > >partials are shifted up and the resistance is much less? Does anyone even > >think about going higher than 8th partial on them, and if so wouldn't they > >need a > >mouthpiece much more similar to a piccolo trumpet's? > > > > I don't know, but I can make a guess. > > I took my Model 42 Paxman, Bb, F alt, when I visited my son last year. A > very good friend of his, a trumpet player, was also visiting. This guy, > Adam > Rappa, is phenomenal, both classical and jazz. He's been touring with the > musical BLAST, as solo trumpet, and has been offered the 2nd trumpet (solo) > spot in > the Maynard Ferguson Big Band. He performs versions of Maynard's solos as > well, or better, than the man himself. > > We discovered that if he plays a Farkas XDC on my descant, he gets a very > nice Paxman sound using his trumpet embouchure. When he discovered the > basic > horn is in Bb, he did things with the descant that were mind boggling. He > had a > bit of a problem dealing with F fingerings, and said the horn would be > perfect > if it were all in Bb. My son lives in Boston, so I'll pass on that Osman > has > a Bb, Bb alt in stock. I'd love to be there if he tries it out. > _______________________________________________ > post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > set your options at > http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/valkhorn%40aol.com > _______________________________________________ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
