Good music schools teach student conductors the same way all good teachers
teach students - they help them improve their weaknesses.  I hold a Masters
and Doctoral Degree as a choral conductor.  My doctoral teacher, in
particular, required me to video tape each of my rehearsal and watch what I
had done, and it made an immense difference in my efficiency during
rehearsals.  

Some students are good at the organizational aspects but need work on
musical and or leadership issues; such students hopefully get what they need
from their teachers.  

I was my doctoral teacher's equal or superior in many aspects of
musicianship and conducting in the opinion of many of those who sang for us
both, but I learned more useful things from him than from any of my other
conducting teachers because he was, as a teacher, concerned with helping me
improve my own weaknesses and not trying to remake me in his own image.
Such teachers are rare and to be highly praised, and I was fortunate to have
him, and to have also had others like him along the way.

One size does not fit all when it comes to any private instruction.

Your #7 below is particularly important.  Although it's OK for a conductor
to ask for eyes, it is his job to provide something worth looking at, and
most amateur conductors and quite a few professionals as well have their
heads buried in their scores.  If one cannot conduct a piece of standard
repertoire mostly from memory, one ought to relinquish the stick to someone
who can.  My 9-year-old can follow a score and wave his hand in time with
the music.

Last but not least, amateur groups do not necessarily have amateur
conductors.  I don't believe it's a good place for an amateur group to save
money.

-S-

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> I writing as a music-uneducated horn playing amateur. 
> What do music schools teach student music conductors? 
> Do they teach the following things:
> 
> 1) Using rehearsal time efficiently.  Do they teach 
> conductors to make several mental notes through the 
> run-through, so that after several minutes of performance the 
> conductor can mention several items that he wants changed 
> (all at one time).  Most conductors of amateur groups stop 
> everytime they want to make a single comment.
> 
> 2) Comment only when productive to do so.  Some conductors 
> stop when the 3rd horn clams the high G, as if a derisive 
> comment by the conductor will correct this.
> 
> 3) Balance the sound volume within sections and between 
> sections. (Why is this seldom done?)
> 
> 4) Provide leadership in achieving a unified style, with no 
> player egotistically sticking out.
> 
> 5) Encouraging section principals to exercise leadership of 
> their respective sections. 
> Watching to see that new members are welcomed and cared for.
> 
> 6) Seeking out new or rarely played compositions that both 
> players and audience can enjoy.
> 
> 7) Using his presence on the podium to inspire and instill 
> passion in the performance.  Many conductors complain that 
> the musicians don't watch them enough, but this could be 
> largely corrected if the conductors provided a towering and 
> charismatic presence (rather than being only a human metronome.)
> 
> 8) Not embarrassing the ensemble during concerts with 
> excessively promotional or solicitous pitches to the audience.
> 
> 
> 
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