Hi Mike,

The 5802K has undergone some changes, and is now more of a true Geyer
wrap. This model is being released in a couple of months. The difference
in appearance is that the branches entering and leaving the valve
cluster are straight instead of curved "Knopf" style.  I'm a bit biased,
as I have been working closely with Gerhard Meinl (Meinl-Weston Tubas)
who how owns the Hoyer factory, but I also think the Hoyer sounds much
better. They will be priced competitively with the Yamaha.  Feel free to
contact me directly if you would like more info.

Orlando 

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Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2006 1:11 AM
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Subject: [Hornlist] Hans Hoyer 5802K (addition to my original post)

hey everyone,
  and can someone please give a comparison of the Hoyer 5802 against a
Yamaha 667 (not the "custom" 667VL or whatever it is...unless the hoyers
pretty close to it....aww what the heck if its a 667VL give me the
comparison anyway, good or bad for the Hoyer.)
   
  thanks,
  Mike K.
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