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2015-04-30 Thread Laura Camellini
Sorry forma wrong forwarding, this proposal was for community consideration Il 30/apr/2015 12:15, Laura Camellini jeeltcr...@gmail.com ha scritto: Hi all, sorry for not quoting, just telling you my proposal, i followed the events of these days with growing concerning and would like to help you

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2015-04-30 Thread Andrew Patterson
Hi As a novice on HOT I would support Severin's suggestion for an Experienced Mapper status for validation. I have managed to complete about 36 Tasks to date, and have decided to concentrate on the Malawi flooding Tasks, although its High Priority status has been rather over taken by recent

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2015-04-29 Thread Nick Allen
Jonathan, Thank you for the feedback which is exactly what we need. Have you looked at http://learnosm.org/en/coordination/remote/ could you give some feedback on it - I am one of the people who try to make it useful. Feedback can be given by clicking on the pencil symbol on the site, sending

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2015-04-29 Thread Jonathan Webb
I am one of the newcomers. I am not a GIS scientist learnt on the job and am relatively lightweight, however I know that I am perfectly capable of making a contribution but the (HOT)OSM process is not clear: As is mentioned in several previous posts*, there is a lack of guidance and aims.

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2015-04-29 Thread Sam
Hi, Also a newbie but with many years experience in digital maps so trying to learn on the fly but agree with Jon on disparate nature of info and am happy to help with that. For now there is one thing I can't find and maybe someone can help me - some info on using plotlatch with the task manager,

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2015-04-29 Thread Kevin Bullock
@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [HOT] AAGH! I would add to this, This is the ransom of the success we had with the OpenStreetMap responses over the last few years - Haiti 2010 1.5 million edits - Haiyan 2013 4.5 million edits - Ebola million edits 16 milllions up to now? - Nepal

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2015-04-29 Thread Pierre Béland
...@yahoo.fr; Andrew Buck andrew.r.b...@gmail.com; hot@openstreetmap.org hot@openstreetmap.org Envoyé le : Mercredi 29 avril 2015 11h53 Objet : RE: [HOT] AAGH! #yiv8126997952 #yiv8126997952 -- _filtered #yiv8126997952 {font-family:Calibri;panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4

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2015-04-29 Thread Brad Neuhauser
I just found that too, but I don't see the link to .osm file it mentions. Is that from an older version of the Tasking Manager, or is it still available somehow? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_Tasking_Manager#Adding_the_grid_square_to_Potlatch On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 11:09 AM, Nick Allen

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2015-04-29 Thread Nick Allen
Sam, I don't know how current it is but there is a section here http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_Tasking_Manager About potlatch and the tasking manager. If you feedback to me or the list about its usefulness I'll try to get it updated. Nick Volunteer 'Tallguy' for

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2015-04-29 Thread Sam
i switched to iD editor which shows the tile outlined so that's good for now. but will check your info and feedback once i'm done with this tile. thanks :) ᐧ On 29 April 2015 at 18:09, Nick Allen nick.allen...@gmail.com wrote: Sam, I don't know how current it is but there is a section here

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2015-04-29 Thread Peter Kohler
*Envoyé le :* Mercredi 29 avril 2015 11h53 *Objet :* RE: [HOT] AAGH! Pierre – those are incredible stats, would love to see an update when convenient. I’ve been following http://osm.townsendjennings.com/nepal/ but your information seems to differ. *From:* Pierre

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2015-04-29 Thread Suzan
@openstreetmap.org /divdivSubject: Re: [HOT] AAGH! /divdiv /divDear all, What are people's thoughts on a set of introductory youtube videos? Target could be new joins, content; setting up, what to start editing (e.g. white tiles), basics of image interpretation. Probably

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2015-04-29 Thread Arun Ganesh
On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 1:31 AM, Suzan su...@suzanreed.com wrote: I'm a fast learner and find the slow pace of the beginner's guide frustratingly slow. How about a quick start guide at a pace those of us with skills in drawing and seeing could learn from. I had no problem picking up the ID

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2015-04-29 Thread Pierre Béland
arun.plane...@gmail.com À : Suzan su...@suzanreed.com Cc : Peter Kohler peter.l.koh...@gmail.com; Pierre Béland pierz...@yahoo.fr; hot@openstreetmap.org hot@openstreetmap.org Envoyé le : Mercredi 29 avril 2015 16h52 Objet : Re: [HOT] AAGH! On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 1:31 AM

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2015-04-29 Thread Josh Weiland
Hi, I am in a similar position (GIS professional, etc), though I started playing with HOT a few months ago, so have some lead time to get ready. I agree that getting all the tutorials in an obvious place is needed, it took a long time to figure out what I needed to read. But I found that more

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2015-04-29 Thread Filipe Santana Lopes
Hey Jonathan, Some more information you have on the wiki page of openstreetmap: How to tag highways (roads, paths, etc): https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:highway How to tag waterways: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:waterway How to tag buldings:

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2015-04-29 Thread Brad Neuhauser
Filipe, those are good general references. There are Nepal-specific tracing and tagging tips on http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Nepal_remote_mapping_guide, especially see the Common Features and Tagging sections. Cheers, Brad On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 8:27 AM, Filipe Santana Lopes

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2015-04-29 Thread Charlotte Wolter
Jonathan, Emergency mapping is by its nature a bit chaotic. We are working to clarify the issues you raised and many others. Please use the Tasking Master (http://tasks.hotosm.org) to find areas that need mapping. And don't worry if your work may not be dead accurate.

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2015-04-28 Thread john whelan
such activations. Pierre -- *De :* Severin Menard severin.men...@gmail.com *À :* hot@openstreetmap.org hot@openstreetmap.org *Envoyé le :* Mardi 28 avril 2015 6h04 *Objet :* Re: [HOT] AAGH! Hi, We could also make slightly evolve

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2015-04-28 Thread Pierre Béland
developpers. Too busy to list them now. Please add these in the wiki. Cheer   Pierre De : Andrew Buck andrew.r.b...@gmail.com À : hot@openstreetmap.org Envoyé le : Mardi 28 avril 2015 8h18 Objet : Re: [HOT] AAGH! -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I do agree

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2015-04-28 Thread Severin Menard
*Objet :* Re: [HOT] AAGH! Hi, We could also make slightly evolve the Tasking Manager and create an experienced mapper privileges status who would be required to have access to the validate/unvalidate steps and can promote any other mapper to this status, because she/he

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2015-04-28 Thread Om G
Ralph, I believe that you offered the solution within your message. Can we make it explicit that New volunteers are to ONLY work on the White Tiles ? I believe most volunteers are capable of following this request, and do have the best intentions with their involvement. It would be onerous

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2015-04-28 Thread Severin Menard
:* Re: [HOT] AAGH! Hi, We could also make slightly evolve the Tasking Manager and create an experienced mapper privileges status who would be required to have access to the validate/unvalidate steps and can promote any other mapper to this status, because she/he knowsher/him

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2015-04-28 Thread Andrew Buck
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I do agree with you in principle, and actually suggested using the information on the task manager linke number of tiles a user has completed to do things like flag new users tiles for extra caution in validating and such. Whether we want to restrict

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2015-04-28 Thread Andrew Buck
:* Lundi 27 avril 2015 19h21 *Objet :* Re: [HOT] AAGH! I understand the frustration. Some times the newbies do very bad, but some produce very good data as well. One thing that we can also do is load large sections of the country in JOSM with the 'mirrored download

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2015-04-28 Thread Stacey Maples
summer folding it. -Steven Wright- - Original Message - From: Chad Blevins cblev...@usaid.gov To: Stace Maples stacemap...@stanford.edu Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2015 11:54:45 AM Subject: Re: [HOT] AAGH! Hi Stacy, The lack of guidance does lead to poor quality data

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2015-04-28 Thread Stacey Maples
it. -Steven Wright- - Original Message - From: Pierre Béland pierz...@yahoo.fr To: Andrew Buck andrew.r.b...@gmail.com, hot@openstreetmap.org Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2015 6:57:10 AM Subject: Re: [HOT] AAGH! I would add to this, This is the ransom of the success we had

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2015-04-28 Thread Severin Menard
andrew.r.b...@gmail.com *À :* hot@openstreetmap.org *Envoyé le :* Lundi 27 avril 2015 19h21 *Objet :* Re: [HOT] AAGH! -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I understand the frustration. Some times the newbies do very bad, but some produce very good data as well. One

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2015-04-28 Thread Pierre Béland
 : Re: [HOT] AAGH! Hi, We could also make slightly evolve the Tasking Manager and create an experienced mapper privileges status who would be required to have access to the validate/unvalidate steps and can promote any other mapper to this status, because she/he knowsher/him

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2015-04-28 Thread Chia-liang Kao
-- *De :* Andrew Buck andrew.r.b...@gmail.com *À :* hot@openstreetmap.org *Envoyé le :* Lundi 27 avril 2015 19h21 *Objet :* Re: [HOT] AAGH! -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I understand the frustration. Some times

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2015-04-27 Thread Andrew Buck
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I understand the frustration. Some times the newbies do very bad, but some produce very good data as well. One thing that we can also do is load large sections of the country in JOSM with the 'mirrored download' plugin. You can then scan over a

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2015-04-27 Thread Pierre Béland
@openstreetmap.org Envoyé le : Lundi 27 avril 2015 19h21 Objet : Re: [HOT] AAGH! -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I understand the frustration.  Some times the newbies do very bad, but some produce very good data as well.  One thing that we can also do is load

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2015-04-27 Thread Heather Leson
*À :* hot@openstreetmap.org *Envoyé le :* Lundi 27 avril 2015 19h21 *Objet :* Re: [HOT] AAGH! -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I understand the frustration. Some times the newbies do very bad, but some produce very good data as well. One thing that we can

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2015-04-27 Thread Heather Leson
2015 11h25 *Objet :* [HOT] AAGH! If I don't scream I will end up tearing my hair out. We need to change what we are doing and who we are letting in to do it. These Activations in response to a disaster means that people's lives are at stake here. I am finding totally

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2015-04-27 Thread AYTOUN RALPH
If I don't scream I will end up tearing my hair out. We need to change what we are doing and who we are letting in to do it. These Activations in response to a disaster means that people's lives are at stake here. I am finding totally inexperienced mappers (some with no completed tiles and others

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2015-04-27 Thread Nama Budhathoki
Hi Aytoun, You bring serious concern. I can understand your concern from our past experience working with inexperienced mappers from some universities. Please understand that we are so busy here in the field that we hardly have time to look at the quality of the data. Hope others will through

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2015-04-27 Thread Pete Masters
It's a fair point, Ralph. I will ask on the Missing Maps platforms that people not contribute if this is their first time mapping. It might be good to put a note on the description and instructions on the tasks: EXPERIENCED MAPPERS ONLY Happy to do this if you guys think it's a good way to

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2015-04-27 Thread AYTOUN RALPH
and quality? Pierre -- *De :* AYTOUN RALPH ralph.ayt...@ntlworld.com *À :* hot@openstreetmap.org *Envoyé le :* Lundi 27 avril 2015 11h25 *Objet :* [HOT] AAGH! If I don't scream I will end up tearing my hair out. We need to change what we

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2015-04-27 Thread Pete Masters
...@gmail.com *À :* hot@openstreetmap.org *Envoyé le :* Lundi 27 avril 2015 19h21 *Objet :* Re: [HOT] AAGH! -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I understand the frustration. Some times the newbies do very bad, but some produce very good data as well. One thing that we