Hello everyone,

Here are some snippets from this conversation I would like to address:

* I would actually like a test/mentoring system, then at least I would know if 
I'm rubbish or not! 
* When I came on board, I wondered why there weren't learning materials I had 
to study, and then a test to be sure I was ready to map. 
* I also wondered why I was able to contribute to any task instead to being 
routed to tasks meant especially for newcomers, with a mentoring team watching 
over my work, giving me suggestions for improvements.
* Required reading and a mapping test? 

These are common 'misunderstanding' with OpenStreetMap.  When I first found OSM 
it was a basemap in another software, but what really caught my attention was 
how horribly mapped my home town was.  So I went searching on the internet, 
learned a tiny bit about the project itself - but also found a local OSM group. 
 So what did I do, I basically approached them with the mentality that 'they 
would fix this for me, right?' - totally wrong - what they did was empower me 
to fix it myself.  Not exactly what I had hoped, but in the long-run; the much 
better solution.

And that leads to answering a few of those questions above - why is there 'no 
one watching your work' - actually there are, millions of them.  Maybe not 
specifically looking at that last thing you traced and providing direct 
feedback; but eventually everything in OSM will get 'peer reviewed', and 
reviewed again - and ran through a dozen QA tools - and further edited; and so 
on and so forth.  There are NO barriers to entry in OSM; that is probably one 
thing that is quite confusing to anyone unfamiliar with the Open Source 
concept.  Much like Wikipedia, you don't need to be a published author or go 
through some vetting system in order to contribute; that's the point - we want 
everyone in the world to be able to contribute.

All that said, we built LearnOSM.org to provide those learning materials - 
sure, much like OSM, it isn't complete; and we continue to work on 
improvements.  And originally the Tasking Manager did not have a validation 
system; no it does, and problems have been pointed out, and we're working to 
improve it.

There were also some comments around 'volunteer satisfaction' - not that I want 
to take you away from HOT - but back to my 'intro to OSM' story - nothing is 
more satisfying than getting your local neighborhood onto OSM and showing where 
'the big time map providers' are way behind: 
http://tools.geofabrik.de/mc/#15/39.3681/-104.8825&num=4&mt0=mapnik&mt1=cyclemap&mt2=bing-map&mt3=google-map
 

Happy Mapping,
=Russ

Russell Deffner
russell.deff...@hotosm.org
Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team (HOT)
http://hotosm.org





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