Hi, I think before proposing who is leading what, having an open discussion about what a survey about HOT Activations should encompass and what to analyze would be a good start. There is for sure a lot to learn from Haiyan activation but please let us not forget there are other Activations to learn from. Haiyan is quite exceptional by the massive response, over 1,500 contributors, due to the fact it was a huge natural disaster. Conflict-based disasters are generally less covered but the baseline data is not less really needed by the Humanitarian organizations. I focus my voluntary time on this kind of Activations and finding ways to improve the response and the number of contributions (thanks again to everyone who has participated) is really a key.
Sincerely, Severin > Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2014 09:04:46 -0500 > From: Heather Leson <heatherle...@gmail.com> > To: Mikel Maron <mikel_ma...@yahoo.com> > Cc: Clay impact <clay.westr...@impact-initiatives.org>, "Kunce, Dale" > <dale.ku...@redcross.org>, "hot@openstreetmap.org" > <hot@openstreetmap.org> > Subject: Re: [HOT] Interim Report: Typhoon Haiyan (Yolanda) Damage > Assessment > Message-ID: > < > cahjf0tjev4lkvej0djxn2wmkh6mgwqh5ay6s8pawzmz4bb9...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > HI Folks, > > I've been thinking about reports and research. Last summer I asked if there > were folks interested in Research on this list. There was a slight trickle > of interest. > > During the Typhoon activation, I attempted to collect some Impact Stories. > (not so successfully, but I have a proposed solution.) > > We don't have funds to support a formal HOT research project. (If you are a > funder, I would love to talk with you off list on this topic). For those in > universities, I think there is an incredible opportunity to partner with > HOT to do some research. We simply don't have an inhouse research arm. > (yet) > > Proposal: > I do community surveys in my day job. I'd love to do a HOT Survey about the > activation and HOT in general. If you like this idea (Kate, Maning, Pierre > especially), I am happy to take the lead on it. But, I need some people who > are researchers to join our mini team. > > We need to capture feedback and impact of the Activation to help us grow. > Plus, it would be good for a window in the world of HOT and how we can be, > well, Hotter. > > > (To our Red Cross friends - thank you. Learning is valuable. Feedback is > the richness to help us all grow.) > > Thank you, > > Heather > > Heather Leson > heatherle...@gmail.com > Twitter: HeatherLeson > Blog: textontechs.com > > > On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 8:54 AM, Mikel Maron <mikel_ma...@yahoo.com> > wrote: > > > Hi > > > > > We should be careful to make the appropriate analysis and not > demotivate > > the OpenStreetMap community who made > > > such a huge effort for this activation. > > > > This report, I believe, is the first thorough investigation ever of OSM > > data from a disaster activation. That gives us really concrete analysis > to > > digest and learn from. Certainly not everything in a response is within > > HOT's control, but we need to accept that we can and must improve what we > > do, and take feedback seriously. That is precisely how HOT has grown from > > an outrageous idea back in 2005, to an indispensable component of > disaster > > response in 2014. > > > > Our mission is to be effective in disaster response, and that means > > acknowledging our gaps, even when that might be hard. We made a huge > > effort, and have gotten tremendous kudos for what we've accomplished for > > the Haiyan response, and we can be secure in our pride in that. We are > also > > comfortable, strong and motivated to adapt ourselves to well researched > > critique and analysis. > > > > And i n any case, worth noting that this is the quite positive take > away... > > > > "The assessment found that modest investments in technology, business > > processes and pre-disaster activities could make OSM a strong platform > for > > damage assessment data and analysis in future disasters." > > > > > The Red Cross study makes the assumption that the objective of the > > OpenStreetMap crowdsourcing was to make detailed > > > assesments. > > ... > > > The Red Cross study points to the fact that in most cases the > > limitation in damage assesment was the > > > imagery that seemed to show undamaged buildings when in reality they > had > > sustained damage. > > > > I'm not sure if this assumption is made or not, but I agree that the > > report is not totally clear on the context and objective in which HOT was > > engaged in damage assessment. A single sentence or two on that context in > > the executive summary could help. As well, inclusion of the points on > > imagery in the executive summary would be more representative of the > > conclusions. > > > > Btw, the report is in GitHub :) Not sure if ARC wants to respond to pull > > requests, but very possible to make fine tuned suggestions to there > > https://github.com/AmericanRedCross/OSM-Assessment > > > > Cheers > > -Mikel > > > > * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron > > > > > > On Wednesday, February 12, 2014 9:25 PM, Pierre B?land < > > pierz...@yahoo.fr> wrote: > > > > Hi Robert, > > > > In the early days after Typhoon Haiyan, there were estimations of 10,000 > > dead, severe damages and no communications with various remote areas. The > > humanitarian community as a whole needed even rough estimates of the > > extent and the distribution of the damages. > > > > The Coordination group where OCHA , US Red Cross and HOT participated > > right from the beginning of this intervention thought that OpenStreetMap > > should contribute to make Damage assesments. The objective was to make > > these assesments from Satellite imagery as soon as these would be > > available. > > > > The Red Cross study makes the assumption that the objective of the > > OpenStreetMap crowdsourcing was to make detailed assesments. But you can > > only make rough assesments from Satellite imagery especially when > > atmospheric conditions restrict the quality of the images provided. And a > > simple classification was used (ie. damaged or destroyed). UAV's > (drones) > > or Aerial oblique imageries could have been used to make detailed > > assesments. But this was not part of the established workflow of the > > humanitarian community before Haiyan and such images were not available > to > > make detailed assesments. > > > > Once such crisis are ended, we should surely analyze our actions and plan > > collectively for better interventions in the future. But we should avoid > to > > have wrong conclusions about actions taken during this crisis. > > > > The way the report is written, it gives the impression that imprecision > in > > evaluation of assesment is due to the use of the OpenStreetMap community. > > The humanitarian community as a whole did not build before this event the > > capacity to react rapidly, deploy teams and provide detailed > post-disaster > > imagery in other ways then through Satellite. > > > > In the context of this emergency and with the imagery provided, would > > professionnals specialized in damage assesment have scored significantly > > better? Due to the limits of such assesments in the operational context > of > > this operation, analysis should be based on the capacity to identify > zones > > of high damages and not focus on individual houses. To my point of view, > > the objective of that operation following the severed damages after > Typhoon > > Haiyan was to give an early warning to identify zones and not individual > > houses. This would need oblique imagery. > > > > Thinking about a better workflow in the context of such disasters, the > > capacity to have more flexibility and deploy rapidly teams when necessary > > to obtain either UAV imagery (drone) or aerial oblique imagery would > surely > > give a different response, this either with the OpenStreetMap community > or > > professionnals of damage assesment. > > > > We surely have a workflow to build and establish the role and limits of > > assesments done with aerial imagery in the context of such emergency > > operations. > > > > We should be careful to make the appropriate analysis and not demotivate > > the OpenStreetMap community who made such a huge effort for this > > activation. > > > > The Red Cross study points to the fact that in most cases the limitation > > in damage assesment was the imagery that seemed to show undamaged > buildings > > when in reality they had sustained damage. But this is not reflected in > the > > Executive summary and in the Conclusion of the study. This study should > be > > completed with a better analysis of the type of imagery necessary to make > > better asssesment studies. > > > > > > Pierre > > > > ------------------------------ > > *De :* "Banick, Robert" <robert.ban...@redcross.org> > > *? :* "hot@openstreetmap.org" <hot@openstreetmap.org> > > *Cc :* Clay impact <clay.westr...@impact-initiatives.org>; "Kunce, > Dale" < > > dale.ku...@redcross.org> > > *Envoy? le :* Mercredi 12 f?vrier 2014 9h22 > > *Objet :* [HOT] Interim Report: Typhoon Haiyan (Yolanda) Damage > Assessment > > > > Dear HOT Communuity, > > > > The American Red Cross and the REACH Initiative are pleased to present > an interim > > assessment report on the validity of the building damages assessed > > through OpenStreetMap in the weeks following Typhoon Haiyan. You can > find a > > print copy attached and a more interactive website version at the above > > link. > > > > The results were unfortunately negative and underline real limitations > > in OpenStreetMap's ability to capture these results in the present. > > Neverthless, this report identifies strong promise in the OSM model of > > crowdsourcing and highlights the investments needed to make that > potential > > possible. It's our sincere hope that funders, NGO partners and most > > especially the OpenStreetMap community will rally around these > investments > > so that OSM can play an even stronger and more operationally useful role > in > > future disaster responses. > > > > We are indebted to the US Agency for International Development's Office > > of Foreign Disaster Assistance (OFDA) for funding this assessment and > look > > forward to future partnerships to improve the utility of open data and > > OpenStreetMap in particular for disaster response. > > > > With all the best, > > Robert Banick, Dale Kunce and Clay Westrope > > American Red Cross & REACH Initiative > > > > *Robert Banick* | Field GIS Coordinator | International Services | ? > American > > Red Cross <http://www.redcross.org/> > > 2025 E Street NW, Washington, DC 20006\ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > HOT mailing list > > HOT@openstreetmap.org > > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > HOT mailing list > > HOT@openstreetmap.org > > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > HOT mailing list > > HOT@openstreetmap.org > > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/hot/attachments/20140213/026e8bc5/attachment.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > HOT mailing list > HOT@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot > > > End of HOT Digest, Vol 48, Issue 47 > *********************************** >
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