Re: [hugin-ptx] Mosiac model - convergence, accuracy?

2015-05-29 Thread bugbear
Roger Broadie wrote: Isn't the answer to the situation shown in your diagram, where there is an isolated area of crumpling (and yes, I know it's only a diagram, but the situation does arise in reality), to take an extra photo from directly above the crumpled area and looking straight down on i

Re: [hugin-ptx] Mosiac model - convergence, accuracy?

2015-05-28 Thread Carl von Einem
Don Johnston wrote on 28.05.15 17:33: Have you thought of using a piece of glass over the section you are photographing to get rid of the 3rd dimension (flatten the folds). Then you have to light it from an angle to ensure there is no glare. Take a look at this article on building a cheap book sc

Re: [hugin-ptx] Mosiac model - convergence, accuracy?

2015-05-28 Thread Don Johnston
Oh ... problem! On May 28, 2015 9:54 AM, bugbear wrote: > > Don Johnston wrote: > > Have you thought of using a piece of glass over the section you are > > photographing to get rid of the 3rd dimension (flatten the folds). Then you > > have to light it from an angle to ensure there is no glare

Re: [hugin-ptx] Mosiac model - convergence, accuracy?

2015-05-28 Thread bugbear
Don Johnston wrote: Have you thought of using a piece of glass over the section you are photographing to get rid of the 3rd dimension (flatten the folds). Then you have to light it from an angle to ensure there is no glare. Take a look at this article on building a cheap book scanner. They are

Re: [hugin-ptx] Mosiac model - convergence, accuracy?

2015-05-28 Thread Don Johnston
Have you thought of using a piece of glass over the section you are photographing to get rid of the 3rd dimension (flatten the folds). Then you have to light it from an angle to ensure there is no glare. Take a look at this article on building a cheap book scanner. They aren't using any special

Re: [hugin-ptx] Mosiac model - convergence, accuracy?

2015-05-28 Thread Roger Broadie
28 May 2015 09:07:27 Subject: Re: [hugin-ptx] Mosiac model - convergence, accuracy? Roger Broadie wrote: Hello Paul, I thought your panorama was pretty good, but I don’t think you have fully overcome the problems of parallax resulting from creases and folds. The main cause, I suspect, is the camera t

Re: [hugin-ptx] Mosiac model - convergence, accuracy?

2015-05-28 Thread bugbear
Roger Broadie wrote: > grid-square P25, where the different shapes of the square as captured in e.g. images 17 and 23 illustrate graphically the problems of the parallax present in places in your images. You may have a point ;-) (see attached) BugBear -- A list of frequently asked question

Re: [hugin-ptx] Mosiac model - convergence, accuracy?

2015-05-28 Thread bugbear
Roger Broadie wrote: Hello Paul, I thought your panorama was pretty good, but I don’t think you have fully overcome the problems of parallax resulting from creases and folds. The main cause, I suspect, is the camera tilt of 6 deg plus or minus from the vertical that the pitch values of the o

Re: [hugin-ptx] Mosiac model - convergence, accuracy?

2015-05-27 Thread Terry Duell
Hello Paul, On Wed, 27 May 2015 19:45:54 +1000, bugbear wrote: [snip] I did use the new 'EditCP' tool in hugin-2015.0.0, which made finding and removing the worst of the CPs an easy task. How did you do this? Each image on the preview is tiny (since I have 30 images), so I don't see

Re: [hugin-ptx] Mosiac model - convergence, accuracy?

2015-05-27 Thread Roger Broadie
12:36:00 Subject: [hugin-ptx] Mosiac model - convergence, accuracy? The convergence behaviour of the mosaic model is really quite poor. I have recently completed shooting a very careful trial, using a cantilevered tripod (Benbo) over a map on my dining table. (I shot at less than maximum

Re: [hugin-ptx] Mosiac model - convergence, accuracy?

2015-05-27 Thread bugbear
Terry Duell wrote: Hello Paul, On Wed, 27 May 2015 08:40:18 +1000, Terry Duell wrote: I'll have a look at your project. I think it all boils down to 'good' and 'less good' control points. I did a little editing of control points, and removed the vertical and horizontal CPs, and the optimi

Re: [hugin-ptx] Mosiac model - convergence, accuracy?

2015-05-26 Thread Terry Duell
Hello Paul, On Tue, 26 May 2015 21:36:00 +1000, paul womack wrote: The convergence behaviour of the mosaic model is really quite poor. [snip] I have uploaded the images and project file at I have had good results stitching scanned images and panos of street 'art' on walls, but your

Re: [hugin-ptx] Mosiac model - convergence, accuracy?

2015-05-26 Thread bugbear
paul womack wrote: (more experiments below) My more significant concern is that my "final" optimisation, has a disappointingly large error, and (indeed) shows stitching glitches on final output. Since my map is nigh 2 dimensional, and I went to considerable pains to shoot a narrow FOV from a

[hugin-ptx] Mosiac model - convergence, accuracy?

2015-05-26 Thread paul womack
The convergence behaviour of the mosaic model is really quite poor. I have recently completed shooting a very careful trial, using a cantilevered tripod (Benbo) over a map on my dining table. (I shot at less than maximum resolution, at 3 Mp to cut down the data size) All the shots (30 in all) ar