On Wednesday, 19 September 2018 at 8:22:08 -0700, T. Modes wrote: > Am Mittwoch, 19. September 2018 06:00:08 UTC+2 schrieb Groogle:
Nein, er schrieb das am Mittwoch, 19. September 2018 14:00:03 +1000.
Er hat mit UTC+2 nichts am Hut. Wo die 5 Sekunden Versatz entstanden
sind, ist mir ein Rätsel.
>> Sorry, but is wrong. I spent quite a bit of time going through this
>> page a while back, and it contains numerous issues. Apart from
>> autopano-sift-c, in the main text there are also references to
>> autopano-sift, match-n-shift, ptoinfo, ptscluster, ptoclean,
>> ptovariable and panostart, as well as to the pano.mk file that no
>> longer exists.
>
> Next time, before answering, check your facts.
I checked my facts.
> Have you checked your facts?
Yes.
> Match-n-shift, ptoinfo, ptoclean, ptovariable and panostart are part
> of the Panotools::Scripts. There are still available, are up to date
> and work with the current Hugin version. They are not obsolete like
> you claim.From the linked wiki page:
I stand corrected. The document is not only out of date, it's also
incomplete. The location of those programs is not described in this
document, and that's what we're talking about.
> <quote>
> Panotools::Script for manipulating project files
> <snip> Many of the command-line tools described in this document are
> written with this library.
> </quote>
Which? This is incomplete. It's also in the wrong place. Let's take
an example:
Is:
match-n-shift - All in one wrapper around align_image_stack and autopano-sift-c
Should be:
match-n-shift - All in one wrapper around align_image_stack and
autopano-sift-c, part of <link>Panotools::Script</link>
This section also needs sorting. align_image_stack is a forward
reference.
> Remaining autopano-sift-c, autopano-sift and ptscluster,
Wouldn't that have been enough?
>> From the wiki page:
>
> <quote>
> Hint: Other control points generator, such as autopano-sift,
> autopano-sift-c, panomatic and match-n-shift <snip>
> </quote>
Yes, I saw that. Your point? It's a reference to a programs that are
no longer in Hugin and commands that are part of an unmentioned script
library. For me, that's an indication that the document is
incomplete.
> <quote>
> Other control point cleaners are ptscluster and ptoclean. cpclean has
> largely replaced ptoclean
> </quote>
Again, I don't see what point you're trying to make here.
> These are mentioned in a hint/footnote.
The only other reference to ptoclean is in the list of commands. The
link takes you to a page https://wiki.panotools.org/Ptoclean, which
doesn't exist. Your point?
> So when there are some smaller references to older programs in
> footnotes, you declare the whole page "very out of date."
No, "horribly out of date". To that I add "incomplete and
misleading".
> So it seems I have another definition of "up to date" than you???
Yes, so it seems!!! Your definition seems to be "defendable" rather
than usable. I don't accept it. You have found what you consider to
be a sufficient excuse. It may be sufficient to you, but it isn't to
me, and I assert that it isn't to a beginner. The document is broken.
Your continuous obnoxious behaviour shows that you don't understand,
or that you don't want to. And I note that you avoided answering any
of my comments on the effect on the project of this attitude. As a
result, I plan to look for alternatives to Hugin. This wouldn't have
happened if the project team were interesting in improving the
current situation.
Greg
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