Re: [IAEP] [SoaS-2] Feature Complete? Another Snapshot.

2009-03-06 Thread Costello, Rob R
Whats the difference between soas and soas-2? From: iaep-boun...@lists.sugarlabs.org [mailto:iaep-boun...@lists.sugarlabs.org] On Behalf Of Mike Lee Sent: Saturday, 7 March 2009 5:36 PM To: s...@sugarlabs.org Cc: iaep; Sugar Devel Subject: Re: [IAEP] [SoaS-2]

Re: [IAEP] [SoaS-2] Feature Complete? Another Snapshot.

2009-03-06 Thread Mike Lee
I just tried this on an Intel Classmate 3 (2goPC) with Windows XP Home. Booting from a Kingston DataTraveler 2GB USB drive gets through the Fedora progress bar. Screen goes black and stalls with this line in upper left and a blinking underscore cursor on the next line: r8169 :02:00.0 PCI INT A

Re: [IAEP] Lots of Interest in SoaS at CUE

2009-03-06 Thread Caroline Meeks
Thanks Caryl! When you talk to the tech savvy ones please ask them to help us test it so we can get the bugs out and get it "Grannie ready!" There has been amazing progress in the last few weeks but I want to keep people excited not angry that it doesn't work, so please manage expectations. ;)

[IAEP] Lots of Interest in SoaS at CUE

2009-03-06 Thread Caryl Bigenho
Greetings from the CUE (Computer Using Educators) conference in Palm Springs. There has been a lot of interest in SoaS here. Some folks I have talked with are quite tech savvy and will probably have no problem going to our web site and downloading the software successfully to run on their comp

Re: [IAEP] Topics & deliverables from Marketing IRC meeting 03-03-2009: Sugar 8.4 launch date set!

2009-03-06 Thread ,Josh williams
Hey everyone, I'm jumping on kind of late but here's my take. I don't think "sugar" is actually a very competitive term, even if it is a generic word. SugarLabs.org is already on the front page of google (6) from what I'm seeing (with a search for "sugar") on multiple data center searches. I d

Re: [IAEP] Topics & deliverables from Marketing IRC meeting 03-03-2009: Sugar 8.4 launch date set!

2009-03-06 Thread Sean DALY
These comments have been very useful - thank you. I apologize for the long post below, but I feel the subjects are very important for the project, and with a week to go until the media launch we need to sort ourselves out. Jonas said: If you were too confused to say "I run Sugar 0.82 on OLPC-OS 8

Re: [IAEP] CamelCase

2009-03-06 Thread David Farning
On 3/6/09, Frederick Grose wrote: > The continuing propagation of CamelCase words in the Sugar Labs wiki is > working against those trying use search tools to find information. > This seems to be a big disadvantage, particularly now, as we expect many new > visitors. > > Let's discourage it, and s

Re: [IAEP] Nick name for Sugar 0.84: van Houten

2009-03-06 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Mar 06, 2009 at 03:01:19PM -0500, Kevin Cole wrote: >On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 10:14, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > >> So I now propose instead to name Sugar releases _indirectly_ after >> great sugar-related personalities, and specifically propose

Re: [IAEP] Nick name for Sugar 0.84: van Houten

2009-03-06 Thread Kevin Cole
On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 10:14, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > So I now propose instead to name Sugar releases _indirectly_ after great > sugar-related personalities, and specifically propose to name next > release: Van Houten > > Background material for my choice: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coenr

[IAEP] [SoaS-2] Feature Complete? Another Snapshot.

2009-03-06 Thread Sebastian Dziallas
Hi folks, there's another snapshot of soas-2 ready for testing! There will be another snapshot on this Sunday to have an up2date image for bug triaging sessions. It's really important for us to get as much feedback as possible in this state of soas-2, since we'd like to get a release rolled ou

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] The Road to SoaS-2: A new Snapshot!

2009-03-06 Thread Sebastian Dziallas
Bert Freudenberg wrote: > On 04.03.2009, at 20:58, Sebastian Dziallas wrote: > >> Hi folks, >> >> a new soas-2 snapshot is ready for you! Go and grab it NOW from here: >> >> http://download.sugarlabs.org/soas/snapshots/2/Soas-200903041854.iso >> >> It's important for us to get as much feedback as

Re: [IAEP] CamelCase

2009-03-06 Thread gerry_lowry (alliston ontario canada)
minor point: subject is "CamelCase". Better would have been "camel case". "camelCase" might be more descriptive, although "Camel Casing" is frequently seen, e.g.: http://blogs.msdn.com/brada/archive/2004/02/03/67024.aspx "History around Pascal Casing and Camel Casing" http://en.wikipedia.org/

Re: [IAEP] download pages

2009-03-06 Thread Christoph Derndorfer
Gary C Martin schrieb: > The above shows as "unknown server" – just incase this gets copied and > pasted as a link somewhere important, I think you meant: > > http://sugarlabs.org/go/Downloads > I find the information presented at http://sugarlabs.org/go/Supported_systems#Fedora_on_an_O

Re: [IAEP] download pages

2009-03-06 Thread Walter Bender
We were just talking about that on IRC. I think we need to fork: (1) simple instructions regarding the current stable 8.2 OLPC build (767?) (2) a word about the upcoming 8.2.1 release (3) simple instructions regarding SoaS on an SD card for the OLPC (with mention that mesh is currently not support

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [ANNOUNCE] 0.84 Activity Release Notes

2009-03-06 Thread Simon Schampijer
Simon Schampijer wrote: > Dear Activity Maintainers, > > for the 0.84 Release notes I need your help. It would be awesome to get > detailed notes for each activity. Definitely the Fructose ones - as well > the Honey activities are welcome. > > Please use the Template [1] to create a page and li

[IAEP] Nick name for Sugar 0.84: van Houten

2009-03-06 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Mar 06, 2009 at 02:54:57PM +0100, Bert Freudenberg wrote: > >On 06.03.2009, at 13:49, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > >> Proposal: Sugar 0.82 "Chocolate" > > >Nice idea, but it's not google-compatible. Rather unlikely that "sugar >chocolate" will le

Re: [IAEP] CamelCase

2009-03-06 Thread Luke Faraone
No, unfortunately they will all have to be moved by hand or with a bot. On 3/6/09, Walter Bender wrote: > Is there some way to add a symlink to a path, e.g., > > Developerteam -> DeveloperTeam so that all the subtree is redirected > without having to do each page? > > -walter > > On Fri, Mar 6, 2

Re: [IAEP] CamelCase

2009-03-06 Thread Walter Bender
+1 -walter On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 9:59 AM, Wade Brainerd wrote: > My preference would be to just rename the pages, say ActivityTeam/* -> > Activity Team/* > > That way all future pages are more likely to be named correctly, and the > rename tool automatically makes a redirect page. > > Wade > >

Re: [IAEP] CamelCase

2009-03-06 Thread Wade Brainerd
My preference would be to just rename the pages, say ActivityTeam/* -> Activity Team/* That way all future pages are more likely to be named correctly, and the rename tool automatically makes a redirect page. Wade On Mar 6, 2009, at 9:52 AM, Walter Bender wrote: > Is there some way to ad

Re: [IAEP] CamelCase

2009-03-06 Thread Walter Bender
Is there some way to add a symlink to a path, e.g., Developerteam -> DeveloperTeam so that all the subtree is redirected without having to do each page? -walter On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 9:46 AM, Mel Chua wrote: > +1 - I'll start making redirects as I come across CamelCased pages in the > wiki. >

Re: [IAEP] CamelCase

2009-03-06 Thread Mel Chua
+1 - I'll start making redirects as I come across CamelCased pages in the wiki. For those who want to help, making a redirect page basically gives a wiki page "alternate names" - for instance, http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Jamredirects to http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Jams, so there's no duplication of in

[IAEP] CamelCase

2009-03-06 Thread Frederick Grose
The continuing propagation of CamelCase words in the Sugar Labs wiki is working against those trying use search tools to find information. This seems to be a big disadvantage, particularly now, as we expect many new visitors. Let's discourage it, and start to re-factor the wiki title space, at lea

Re: [IAEP] Topics & deliverables from Marketing IRC meeting 03-03-2009: Sugar 8.4 launch date set!

2009-03-06 Thread Luke Faraone
On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 8:54 AM, Bert Freudenberg wrote: > Nice idea, but it's not google-compatible. Rather unlikely that "sugar > chocolate" will lead one to discover 0.82 ... It's too bad "Sugar" is > such a generic word :( How about "Sugar Labs Chocolate"? :) -- Luke Faraone http://luke.fa

Re: [IAEP] Topics & deliverables from Marketing IRC meeting 03-03-2009: Sugar 8.4 launch date set!

2009-03-06 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 06.03.2009, at 13:49, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > Proposal: Sugar 0.82 "Chocolate" Nice idea, but it's not google-compatible. Rather unlikely that "sugar chocolate" will lead one to discover 0.82 ... It's too bad "Sugar" is such a generic word :( - Bert -

Re: [IAEP] Topics & deliverables from Marketing IRC meeting 03-03-2009: Sugar 8.4 launch date set!

2009-03-06 Thread Antoine van Gelder
On 06 Mar 2009, at 14:37 , Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > Anyone sees other interesting models on which to base our strategy? It's hardware and not software, but it is still an interesting model: http://antipastohw.blogspot.com/2009/03/introducing-open-source-hardware.html - antoine -- http://7d

Re: [IAEP] Topics & deliverables from Marketing IRC meeting 03-03-2009: Sugar 8.4 launch date set!

2009-03-06 Thread Walter Bender
On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 7:37 AM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > But now we seem to have decided to push Sugar as a brand, much > stronger than GNOME has been to date. And we are also selling a > product: Sugar on a Stick. Perhaps we start a different numbering system for the "product". The first Sugar on

Re: [IAEP] Topics & deliverables from Marketing IRC meeting 03-03-2009: Sugar 8.4 launch date set!

2009-03-06 Thread Antoine van Gelder
On 06 Mar 2009, at 14:37 , Tomeu Vizoso wrote: Anyone sees other interesting models on which to base our strategy? It's hardware and not software, but it is still an interesting model: http://antipastohw.blogspot.com/2009/03/introducing-open-source-hardware.html - antoine -- http://7degr

Re: [IAEP] Topics & deliverables from Marketing IRC meeting 03-03-2009: Sugar 8.4 launch date set!

2009-03-06 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Mar 06, 2009 at 01:00:13PM +0100, Sean DALY wrote: >Extremely informative Morgan, many thanks indeed. I am confused! Marvellous introduction to your controversial proposal :-) >can we please consider a cleaner, more comprehensible numbering

Re: [IAEP] Topics & deliverables from Marketing IRC meeting 03-03-2009: Sugar 8.4 launch date set!

2009-03-06 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 13:00, Sean DALY wrote: > Extremely informative Morgan, many thanks indeed. I am confused! > > From a marketing & PR point of view (bear with me please) I find it > very odd that a version used by hundreds of thousands of children is > still zero point something. Well, we h

[IAEP] [ANNOUNCE] 0.84 Activity Release Notes

2009-03-06 Thread Simon Schampijer
Dear Activity Maintainers, for the 0.84 Release notes I need your help. It would be awesome to get detailed notes for each activity. Definitely the Fructose ones - as well the Honey activities are welcome. Please use the Template [1] to create a page and link it appropriately at [2]. The templ

Re: [IAEP] Topics & deliverables from Marketing IRC meeting 03-03-2009: Sugar 8.4 launch date set!

2009-03-06 Thread Sean DALY
Extremely informative Morgan, many thanks indeed. I am confused! >From a marketing & PR point of view (bear with me please) I find it very odd that a version used by hundreds of thousands of children is still zero point something. The nontechnical computer-using mind historically assumes v1.0 is t

Re: [IAEP] [iaep-boun...@lists.sugarlabs.org: Auto-discard notification]

2009-03-06 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Mar 06, 2009 at 10:09:51AM +0100, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: >On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 19:40, Ivan Krstić > wrote: >> On Mar 5, 2009, at 10:32 AM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: >>> Yes, at iaep it got discarded while at -devel it only got >>> quarantined. >>

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [ANNOUNCE] Sucrose 0.84.0 Final Release

2009-03-06 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 10:56, Martin Langhoff wrote: > On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 10:45 PM, Simon Schampijer wrote: >> this is the Final Release in our 0.84 development cycle [1]! Thanks to > > W ho! > > tomorrow morn - in some 12hs - the Welly testers team will be playing > with the latest SoaS,

Re: [IAEP] [ANNOUNCE] Sucrose 0.84.0 Final Release

2009-03-06 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 10:45 PM, Simon Schampijer wrote: > this is the Final Release in our 0.84 development cycle [1]! Thanks to W ho! tomorrow morn - in some 12hs - the Welly testers team will be playing with the latest SoaS, which I understand is the best place to see this code branch in

Re: [IAEP] [iaep-boun...@lists.sugarlabs.org: Auto-discard notification]

2009-03-06 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 19:40, Ivan Krstić wrote: > On Mar 5, 2009, at 10:32 AM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: >> Yes, at iaep it got discarded while at -devel it only got quarantined. > > > Ed's e-mail address had been added by a list admin or moderator to the > "non-members whose messages should be aut

Re: [IAEP] Topics & deliverables from Marketing IRC meeting 03-03-2009: Sugar 8.4 launch date set!

2009-03-06 Thread Morgan Collett
On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 09:55, Sean DALY wrote: > No, not nitpicking! > > Let's be clear what the version number is. > > I have seen both "0.84" and "8.4" and "8.4.0" and "8.4.1", and for the > nontechnical user the "build" number can be confusing. > > Which is it? 0.84.0. It's a release of softwa