Re: [IAEP] Could a KS file be used in the Fedora11 net install to customize the clone process?

2009-08-04 Thread Thomas C Gilliard
David; Great News. Duplication is possible and quite rapid in terminal: r...@520n-robert:/home/robert/Desktop# dd if=/dev/sdg of=USB8.img 15687680+0 records in 15687680+0 records out 8032092160 bytes (8.0 GB) copied, 421.146 s, 19.1 MB/s r...@520n-robert:/home/robert/Desktop# dd if=USB8.img of

[IAEP] Cloning USB sticks (was: Re: Could a KS file be used in the Fedora11 net install to customize the clone process?)

2009-08-04 Thread Sascha Silbe
On Tue, Aug 04, 2009 at 02:41:35AM -0700, Thomas C Gilliard wrote: [copying USB stick via dd] Sucessfully copies the USB stick! this is an exact copy and boot and runs well. Just a word of caution: Because it's an exact copy, it will duplicate your "identity" as well if you've ever logged in t

Re: [IAEP] article about Sugar in Wired magazine

2009-08-04 Thread Dave Bauer
Great information in the comments "The one thing that needs mentioning is the Jabber based collaboration element. The collaboration is very powerful, and built in fundamentally. I have created an EC2 AMI that can be started to allow on demand Jabber collaboration between sugar pcs. The collaborati

Re: [IAEP] Cloning USB sticks

2009-08-04 Thread Thomas C Gilliard
Sascha Silbe wrote: > On Tue, Aug 04, 2009 at 03:38:38AM -0700, Thomas C Gilliard wrote: > >> Can I avoid this f I set up the USB to not use all of the available >> space when I allocate the partition sizes in net install method (see >> link:) > I don't know enough about the Fedora installati

Re: [IAEP] Cloning USB sticks

2009-08-04 Thread Sascha Silbe
On Tue, Aug 04, 2009 at 05:07:31AM -0700, Thomas C Gilliard wrote: ie: The over-riding determining factor is that the copied to USB stick has to have equal or greater capacity than the copied from USB stick for the dd process to be sucessful. Exactly. * Do you have a suggestion on how to dete

Re: [IAEP] USB Sticks - Was: Re: Presenting Sugar to Rosie's Girls Camp, recommendations for cheap, fast flash drives

2009-08-04 Thread Martin Dengler
Hi Caroline, On Sun, Aug 02, 2009 at 11:36:38AM -0400, Caroline Meeks wrote: > Nicco's example has a good example use case from the field that relate to > our work on trying to create a more robust Sugar on a Stick. I think a session on how to not remove the USB stick unless Sugar is shut down, p

Re: [IAEP] [Fwd: Re: Could a KS file be used in the Fedora11 net install to customize the clone process?] network collisions if /.sugar is not changed

2009-08-04 Thread Thomas C Gilliard
I am uploading a compressed 4GB image at this time to sunjammer : http://people.sugarlabs.org/Tgillard/ ETA 3 hrs. (finished about: 2 PM PST) This may be a feasible distribution method. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick/Linux#Download_of_USB.img_file Tom Gilliard David Farning wrot

Re: [IAEP] Cloning USB sticks (was: Re: Could a KS file be used in the Fedora11 net install to customize the clone process?)

2009-08-04 Thread Luke Faraone
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 03:03, Sascha Silbe < sascha-ml-ui-sugar-i...@silbe.org> wrote: > [copying USB stick via dd] > >> Sucessfully copies the USB stick! this is an exact copy and boot and runs >> well. >> > Just a word of caution: Because it's an exact copy, it will duplicate your > "identity"

Re: [IAEP] Cloning USB sticks: Danger of leaving passwords in clones.

2009-08-04 Thread Thomas C Gilliard
Thank you for the caution; I use daveb's method to clear /.sugar in all uploads of sugar rm -rf ~/.sugar su - {password} shutdown -h now This procedure has to be used on all dd copies of USB If this is not done, there is a network collision between 2 clones on same network The generic passwo

Re: [IAEP] article about Sugar in Wired magazine

2009-08-04 Thread Russell Brown
Ah, That was me. There is no zealot like a recent convert, eh? I'm wondering about the practicality of the EC2 ejabberd server too!!! So far the big problem is configuring the sugars each time a new instance is used...the whole restart after setting the jabber server address is a pain. And

Re: [IAEP] Cloning USB sticks: Danger of leaving passwords in clones.

2009-08-04 Thread Sascha Silbe
On Tue, Aug 04, 2009 at 10:39:31AM -0700, Thomas C Gilliard wrote: This procedure has to be used on all dd copies of USB You can also do it on the "master" stick before doing the dd if there's no data in the Journal you want to preserve. Note: I have not seen any failures to USB sticks from

Re: [IAEP] Cloning USB sticks Re: How to damage a Flash strorage Device

2009-08-04 Thread Thomas C Gilliard
I see that the LVM file structure used in F11 is not addressed in the wiki reference. I am attaching a screen shot of the structure of one of the sticks FYI. Are we any better in using live-cd creator for USB creation in Strawberry.? Is the compressed fs safer to use? I do not know how to predic

Re: [IAEP] Reviving the Deployment Team

2009-08-04 Thread Caroline Meeks
Let me know how I can help! Thanks, CAroline On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 2:47 PM, David Farning wrote: > It looks like we have enough sustainable contributors to revive the > Deployment team! > > The existing deployment team information is at > http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Deployment_Team . I would l

Re: [IAEP] Reviving the Deployment Team

2009-08-04 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 12:36 PM, Caroline Meeks wrote: > Let me know how I can help! Likewise. > Thanks, > CAroline > > On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 2:47 PM, David Farning > wrote: >> >> It looks like we have enough sustainable contributors to revive the >> Deployment team! >> >> The existing deployme

[IAEP] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Education_Team#Commentary

2009-08-04 Thread Dennis Daniels
It was suggested that I post a link to my commentary about Sugar and education to this list. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Education_Team#Commentary A quick poll before I go on... how many actively participating teachers on this list or the wiki? From what countries? The views expressed ar

Re: [IAEP] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Education_Team#Commentary

2009-08-04 Thread David Farning
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 2:50 PM, Dennis Daniels wrote: > It was suggested that I post a link to my commentary about Sugar and > education to this list. > http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Education_Team#Commentary > > A quick poll before I go on... how many actively participating > teachers on this list

[IAEP] Activities for SoaS?

2009-08-04 Thread Caryl Bigenho
Hi All... Dumb question: Can all of the Activities listed at: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/recommended be added to the SoaS usb stick? (Not all at once, just a chosen few!) What is the maximum recommended usb stick capacity? I have a client over on the OLPC RT queue who

Re: [IAEP] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Education_Team#Commentary

2009-08-04 Thread Dennis Daniels
Great in theory but I've used Moodle for over three years in public and private schools. Teachers did not go to Moodle until the admins told them to(public school: hand tied/ private school: use Moodle or your fired). We had a teacher who fought using electronic attendance for a year! And the admi

[IAEP] GPA Notes 8/4/09

2009-08-04 Thread Anurag Goel
GPA Notes 8/4/09 Caroline: Today we are going to learn how to boot the computers from scratch so we can take our sticks home. How many of you have computers at home? have computers: 8 Dont' have: 4 Caroline: How many of you had your sticks break during the summer? Failed sticks: 2 We are hop

Re: [IAEP] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Education_Team#Commentary

2009-08-04 Thread Caroline Meeks
I think you are both right. Dennis, I definitely agree that having older students from Middle and High Schools going back to their elementary schools and helping to train teachers is a great strategy. We would love help in implementing that strategy. We are also talking about partnering with the

Re: [IAEP] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Education_Team#Commentary

2009-08-04 Thread David Farning
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 4:43 PM, Caroline Meeks wrote: > I think you are both right. > Dennis, I definitely agree that having older students from Middle and High > Schools going back to their elementary schools and helping to train teachers > is a great strategy.  We would love help in implementing

Re: [IAEP] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Education_Team#Commentary

2009-08-04 Thread Caroline Meeks
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 6:14 PM, David Farning wrote: > On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 4:43 PM, Caroline Meeks > wrote: > > I think you are both right. > > Dennis, I definitely agree that having older students from Middle and > High > > Schools going back to their elementary schools and helping to train >

Re: [IAEP] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Education_Team#Commentary

2009-08-04 Thread Dennis Daniels
GPA? I'm not sure I understand your adult/student ratio at your installation... what is the ratio? Team approach? How many are being paid? What does 'work 10-6' mean? thanks, Dennis > So far all the adults in the school we have talked to have been very > enthusiastic. > The GPA uses a team approa

Re: [IAEP] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Education_Team#Commentary

2009-08-04 Thread David Farning
Please see http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Gardner_Pilot_Academy . david On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 5:29 PM, Dennis Daniels wrote: > GPA? I'm not sure I understand your adult/student ratio at your > installation... what is the ratio? > Team approach? How many are being paid? > What does 'work 10-6' mean

Re: [IAEP] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Education_Team#Commentary

2009-08-04 Thread Caroline Meeks
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 6:29 PM, Dennis Daniels wrote: > GPA? http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Gardner_Pilot_Academy > I'm not sure I understand your adult/student ratio at your > installation... what is the ratio? I don;t know. About normal or a bit better. Its a pilot school there are 2 or 3 cl

Re: [IAEP] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Education_Team#Commentary

2009-08-04 Thread Dennis Daniels
Looking at your stated computer numbers at GPA and figuring 20 students per class you're clearly not going to have enough machines... So is the where SoaS is going to get its first big heavy duty user testing on non OLPC machines? Are you going to dual boot the win2K machines? Have you tested SoaS

Re: [IAEP] Reviving the Deployment Team

2009-08-04 Thread David Farning
The first step, from the implementation, side is going back to the basics; focusing on easy technical bugs and easy usability bug. The goal is establishing respect and trust between the deployment team and the developer team. If we reflect on went well and what did not go so well last year. Not s

Re: [IAEP] Reviving the Deployment Team

2009-08-04 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 4:37 PM, David Farning wrote: > The first step, from the implementation, side is going back to the > basics; focusing on easy technical bugs and easy usability bug.  The > goal is establishing respect and trust between the deployment team and > the developer team. This is go

[IAEP] Resend: Activities for SoaS?

2009-08-04 Thread Caryl Bigenho
Hi... This didn't seem to go through, so I will resend. I would like to add another question...do any of the Activities requiring peripherals work with SoaS? For example, what works with Measure? Can you use the temperature probe? Does the oscilloscope work? Is it possible to use a camera

[IAEP] Resend: Activities for SoaS?

2009-08-04 Thread Caryl Bigenho
Hi... This didn't seem to go through, so I will resend. I would like to add another question...do any of the Activities requiring peripherals work with SoaS? For example, what works with Measure? Can you use the temperature probe? Does the oscilloscope work? Is it possible to use a camera

Re: [IAEP] Resend: Activities for SoaS?

2009-08-04 Thread Dave Bauer
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 9:47 PM, Caryl Bigenho wrote: > Hi... > This didn't seem to go through, so I will resend.  I would like to add > another question...do any of the Activities requiring peripherals work with > SoaS?  For example, what works with Measure?  Can you use the temperature > probe?  D

Re: [IAEP] Resend: Activities for SoaS?

2009-08-04 Thread forster
> do any of the Activities requiring peripherals work with SoaS? For example, > what works with Measure? Can you use the temperature probe? Does the > oscilloscope work? My recollection is that the audio input for data logging doesnt work on non XO hardware but I could be wrong. Walter wil

Re: [IAEP] Resend: Activities for SoaS?

2009-08-04 Thread David Farning
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 8:47 PM, Caryl Bigenho wrote: > Hi... > This didn't seem to go through, so I will resend.  I would like to add > another question...do any of the Activities requiring peripherals work with > SoaS?  For example, what works with Measure?  Can you use the temperature > probe?  D