Re: [IAEP] [SoaS] Soliciting SoaS v.4 Codename & Colour Suggestions

2010-06-03 Thread Caryl Bigenho
Hi... Funny this has come up. I was just thinking about this how about "Sequoia"? Sequoia is a variety of strawberry, a national park, and a Native American (more properly spelled Sequoyah) who independently invented a written language, bringing literacy to his Cherokee Nation. In additi

Re: [IAEP] [SoaS] Soliciting SoaS v.4 Codename & Colour Suggestions

2010-06-03 Thread Caryl Bigenho
Hi... Funny this has come up. I was just thinking about this how about "Sequoia"? Sequoia is a variety of strawberry, a national park, and a Native American (more properly spelled Sequoyah) who independently invented a written language, bringing literacy to his Cherokee Nation. In additi

Re: [IAEP] [Marketing] OLPC rules out Windows for XO-3

2010-06-03 Thread Caryl Bigenho
Hi All... See comment/question below Caryl > From: w...@laptop.org > Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 17:27:12 -0400 > To: csc...@cscott.net > CC: market...@lists.sugarlabs.org; to...@sugarlabs.org; > iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org; raf...@sugarlabs.org > Subject: Re: [IAEP] [Marketing] OLPC rules out Window

Re: [IAEP] [Marketing] OLPC rules out Windows for XO-3

2010-06-03 Thread Chris Ball
Hi, > Linux has been running well on ARM for a long long time. Yeah. In specific, today I got Sugar running on the ARM SoC we'll be using for XO-1.75 and XO-3, and it didn't require any porting at all. It would have happened yesterday, but I had to work out how to get past the Sugar intro/log

Re: [IAEP] [Marketing] OLPC rules out Windows for XO-3

2010-06-03 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 5:41 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartz wrote: > Android is not in the picture.  You can run plain old standard Fedora > GNU/Linux, complete with its thousands of packages, on an ARM computer. > Same with Ubuntu and several other distros. And, in fact, ARM-based Linux distributions d

Re: [IAEP] [Marketing] OLPC rules out Windows for XO-3

2010-06-03 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
On 06/03/2010 05:29 PM, Tim McNamara wrote: > I guess life is slightly different when you can > talk to a manufacturer and avoid Windows CE altogether. Yes, hacking open someone else's closed hardware can be a pain, and we don't have that problem. > Also, given that Android doesn't use many GNU l

Re: [IAEP] [Marketing] OLPC rules out Windows for XO-3

2010-06-03 Thread Tim McNamara
On 4 June 2010 09:07, Chris Ball wrote: > Hi Tim, > > > As soon as I heard that OLPC was moving to ARM, I winced > > slightly. This is going to make life much more difficult, because > > of our longstanding Linux, Python and recent GNOME heritage. What > > is Sugar Labs' role with the XO-

Re: [IAEP] [Marketing] OLPC rules out Windows for XO-3

2010-06-03 Thread John Watlington
After spending some time with touch based devices, I have to agree with Scott. Yes, you can "bolt on" support for single touch to many activities, but doing a good job of supporting multitouch is typically a complete UI redesign. We are trying to get an accelerometer into the design as well as

Re: [IAEP] Sugar and ARM

2010-06-03 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
On 06/03/2010 04:57 PM, Tim McNamara wrote: > As soon as I heard that OLPC was moving to ARM, I winced slightly. This > is going to make life much more difficult, because of our longstanding > Linux, Python and recent GNOME heritage. For the record, Sugar runs perfectly fine on ARM, and has for y

Re: [IAEP] [Marketing] OLPC rules out Windows for XO-3

2010-06-03 Thread Chris Ball
Hi Tim, > As soon as I heard that OLPC was moving to ARM, I winced > slightly. This is going to make life much more difficult, because > of our longstanding Linux, Python and recent GNOME heritage. What > is Sugar Labs' role with the XO-3+? I don't understand -- the XO-3 (and XO-1.5)

Re: [IAEP] [Marketing] OLPC rules out Windows for XO-3

2010-06-03 Thread Tim McNamara
On 4 June 2010 06:21, Benjamin M. Schwartz wrote: > On 06/03/2010 01:45 PM, C. Scott Ananian wrote: > > > My suggestion would be to first convene a "ground up rethink" of what > > a touch-based Sugar could be. > ... > > The result should be a > > *book*, which describes the ideal UI. That will

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Soliciting SoaS v.4 Codename & Colour Suggestions

2010-06-03 Thread Thomas C Gilliard
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Re: [IAEP] [Marketing] OLPC rules out Windows for XO-3

2010-06-03 Thread C. Scott Ananian
Yeah, that kind of thinking is why I worry that you will fail utterly. --scott On Thursday, June 3, 2010, Benjamin M. Schwartz wrote: > On 06/03/2010 01:45 PM, C. Scott Ananian wrote: > >> My suggestion would be to first convene a "ground up rethink" of what >> a touch-based Sugar could be. > .

[IAEP] Soliciting SoaS v.4 Codename & Colour Suggestions

2010-06-03 Thread Sebastian Dziallas
We'd like to kick off the process for the upcoming Sugar on a Stick v.4 already, while gearing up for the SoaS PR at LinuxTag, too. And so we're looking forward to your ideas and suggestions on the codename and colour selections for the next release iteration. These will be discussed at the next me

Re: [IAEP] [Marketing] OLPC rules out Windows for XO-3

2010-06-03 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
On 06/03/2010 01:45 PM, C. Scott Ananian wrote: > My suggestion would be to first convene a "ground up rethink" of what > a touch-based Sugar could be. ... > The result should be a > *book*, which describes the ideal UI. That will be the long term > (think, next decade!) goals for Sugar. That's

Re: [IAEP] [Marketing] OLPC rules out Windows for XO-3

2010-06-03 Thread Bert Freudenberg
+1 I got Etoys running on the iPad, and I can tell you that using touch to emulate a mouse results in a very bad user experience. That's basically why all tablet PCs failed to appeal to the general public. - Bert - On 03.06.2010, at 19:45, "C. Scott Ananian" wrote: > I strongly encourage t

Re: [IAEP] [Marketing] OLPC rules out Windows for XO-3

2010-06-03 Thread C. Scott Ananian
I strongly encourage the Sugar team to consider rethinking the Sugar UI from the ground up for touch. The "simple" port is likely to yield a very unsatisfactory experience; "fat fingers" are just not precise pointing devices, and a lot of gestures which seem intuitive for a mouse don't really work

[IAEP] [SLOBS] meeting reminder

2010-06-03 Thread Walter Bender
We'll be holding a Sugar oversight-board meeting at 11am EST (15UTC) on Friday, 4 June 2010 on irc.freenode.net channel #sugar-meeting. Please join in our discussion of the developer team vacancies and Sugar certification. regards. -walter -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org __

Re: [IAEP] [Marketing] OLPC rules out Windows for XO-3

2010-06-03 Thread Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero
On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 11:54 AM, Walter Bender wrote: > On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 12:48 PM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: >> On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 18:38, Walter Bender wrote: >>> On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 11:43 AM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 15:16, Peter Robinson wrote: > On Thu, Jun

Re: [IAEP] [Marketing] OLPC rules out Windows for XO-3

2010-06-03 Thread Walter Bender
On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 12:48 PM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 18:38, Walter Bender wrote: >> On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 11:43 AM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: >>> On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 15:16, Peter Robinson wrote: On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 1:32 PM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > On Wed, Jun 2

Re: [IAEP] [Marketing] OLPC rules out Windows for XO-3

2010-06-03 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 18:38, Walter Bender wrote: > On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 11:43 AM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: >> On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 15:16, Peter Robinson wrote: >>> On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 1:32 PM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 17:52, John Tierney wrote: > Thought this art

Re: [IAEP] [Marketing] OLPC rules out Windows for XO-3

2010-06-03 Thread Walter Bender
On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 11:43 AM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 15:16, Peter Robinson wrote: >> On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 1:32 PM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: >>> On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 17:52, John Tierney wrote: Thought this article would be of interest to the community. OLPC

Re: [IAEP] [Marketing] OLPC rules out Windows for XO-3

2010-06-03 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 15:16, Peter Robinson wrote: > On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 1:32 PM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: >> On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 17:52, John Tierney wrote: >>> Thought this article would be of interest to the community. >>> >>> OLPC Rules out Windows for XO-3 >>> http://www.networkworld.com/n

[IAEP] We NEED YOU! Sugar / Open1to1 development sprint at FOSSed 2010!

2010-06-03 Thread David Trask
Hi all! We really need you! Many of you may not be aware, but the Open1to1 project is really beginning to gain some traction. Open1to1 was developed with the idea of creating an image and imaging solution for schools wishing to deploy Linux and open source software on netbooks/laptops in their s

Re: [IAEP] [Marketing] OLPC rules out Windows for XO-3

2010-06-03 Thread Peter Robinson
On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 1:32 PM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 17:52, John Tierney wrote: >> Thought this article would be of interest to the community. >> >> OLPC Rules out Windows for XO-3 >> http://www.networkworld.com/news/2010/052710-olpc-rules-out-windows-for.html > > Ed's men

Re: [IAEP] [Marketing] OLPC rules out Windows for XO-3

2010-06-03 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 17:52, John Tierney wrote: > Thought this article would be of interest to the community. > > OLPC Rules out Windows for XO-3 > http://www.networkworld.com/news/2010/052710-olpc-rules-out-windows-for.html Ed's mentions of Sugar, Sugar Labs and the Sugar community are very ni

Re: [IAEP] OLPC Realness Summit

2010-06-03 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 01:12, Bernie Innocenti wrote: > Hello, > > I gave three short talks on the OLPC Realness Summit: > >  * Sugar Development Roadmap >   http://people.sugarlabs.org/bernie/sugar/slides/realness-sugar-roadmap.odp > >  * Engaging in Sugar - How to lead the evolution of our educa

Re: [IAEP] OLPC Realness Summit

2010-06-03 Thread Kurt Gramlich
* Bernie Innocenti [100603 01:13]: > Hello, > > I gave three short talks on the OLPC Realness Summit: > > * Sugar Development Roadmap >http://people.sugarlabs.org/bernie/sugar/slides/realness-sugar-roadmap.odp > > * Engaging in Sugar - How to lead the evolution of our educational platfor