Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] ANNOUNCE: Moving Sugar to GPLv3+

2011-04-24 Thread Bernie Innocenti
On Sat, 2011-04-23 at 03:38 -0400, Martin Langhoff wrote: That is the position of the FSF. However, a very wide community of practice has adopted the GPL for its share and share alike mechanics. In that sense, I stand squarely on the same position as Linus and other kernel hackers. I have

Re: [IAEP] What's on SoaS?

2011-04-24 Thread Peter Robinson
Hi Caryl, On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 5:17 PM, Caryl Bigenho cbige...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi All Is there a link that tells what is included (Sugar Activities, Gnome(?)) etc. on each build of SoaS?  I poked around a bit on the Sugar Labs wiki, but couldn't find it. The list for SoaS v5

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] ANNOUNCE: Moving Sugar to GPLv3+

2011-04-24 Thread Martin Langhoff
Hi Bernie, thanks for the thoughtful response. The use by employees area is something I need to study further, as I suspect is more complex than what you're describing. On the tivoization part... On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 2:50 AM, Bernie Innocenti ber...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Sat, 2011-04-23

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [SLOBS] GPL non compliance? was Re: GPL non-compliance, was Re: GPLv3

2011-04-24 Thread Walter Bender
On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 10:34 PM, Sebastian Silva sebast...@somosazucar.org wrote: From the olpc-uruguay list in an unrelated thread: Si utilizamos las claves de desarrollador (que son las que permiten hacer cualquier cosa en la maquina), pero al momento solo se entregan por solicitudes

[IAEP] Sugar Digest 2011-04-24

2011-04-24 Thread Walter Bender
==Sugar Digest== 1. Amidst all the heated discussion about software licenses, it is worth stepping back a moment to see what people are actually doing on the ground with Sugar. Check out http://proyectofedora.org/argentina/?p=320 for an example of how Turtle Art has been modified by some of our

Re: [IAEP] What's on SoaS?

2011-04-24 Thread Caryl Bigenho
Hi Gary, Tom, and Peter, Thanks for the lists and chart. Now I can see why some of the favorites aren't included on SoaS... too many problems! It would be nice, however, if you could get at least one of the Tam Tams to work... maybe Mini? It would be the logical one because it doesn't

Re: [IAEP] Sugar Digest 2011-04-24

2011-04-24 Thread Christoph Derndorfer
Am 24.04.2011 18:38, schrieb Walter Bender: 4. In a follow-up exercise to the Massachusetts 4th Grade math project [http://wiki.suagrlabs.org/go/Math4Team], Claudia Urrea and I have been developing a correlation between Sugar activities and the Florida 4th-Grade math curriculum (See

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [SLOBS] GPL non compliance? was Re: GPL non-compliance, was Re: GPLv3

2011-04-24 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 8:34 AM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: Likewise, Sugar Labs has an obligation to act on all GPL violations reported on Sugar Labs copyrighted code. But we cannot act on our own if we do not hold copyright. Minor technical note here -- SL has a right, but

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] ANNOUNCE: Moving Sugar to GPLv3+

2011-04-24 Thread Bernie Innocenti
On Sun, 2011-04-24 at 07:53 -0400, Martin Langhoff wrote: Wait a moment: neither the GPLv2 nor the GPLv3 has ever put any limitation on the way you can *use* the software. One could use GPLv3 software to murder people or to implement DRM. Except that antitivoization clauses provide for

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] ANNOUNCE: Moving Sugar to GPLv3+

2011-04-24 Thread Bernie Innocenti
[cc += christoph] On Fri, 2011-04-22 at 21:25 -0400, Paul Fox wrote: i think i've missed the point of all this. bernie's original mail points to the FSF rationale for GPL3 as the reason for moving sugar to GPL3, but somehow i think there must be more to it. i.e., what exactly are the