Re: [IAEP] Etoys or Scratch?

2012-03-05 Thread Tabitha Roder
On 6 March 2012 16:33, Caryl Bigenho wrote: > Hi All... > > Thanks to those of you who have answered that question. It is really > appreciated. If others have helpful suggestions about the programming > aspects of this proposed project, I would welcome them. > > Cheers! > Caryl > > Hi Caryl No

Re: [IAEP] Etoys or Scratch?

2012-03-05 Thread Mike Lee
Caryl, You have almost a white paper in Steve's amazing reply--much of which I have experienced first-hand. In developing the first grant proposal with Lubuto Library to secure funding to enable children in Lusaka, Zambia and local teachers to author their own lessons, we chose Etoys over Scratch

Re: [IAEP] Etoys or Scratch?

2012-03-05 Thread Caryl Bigenho
Hi Steve, Thanks so much for your thoughtful and very thorough answer. If this project happens, which is still not sure, it sounds like Scratch would be the way to go. Localization would be a lot easier in Etoys, from what you have described, but getting the initial product completed in Engli

Re: [IAEP] Etoys or Scratch?

2012-03-05 Thread Caryl Bigenho
Hi All... FYI. I was a disaster volunteer with the ARC for 10+ years until I got too involved with OLPC. I no longer have the time for things like going on extended (3-weeks minimum) deployments. As part of my volunteer work I was a disaster preparedness instructor. I am very aware of the

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Sugar is available for download in Ubuntu 10.04 LTS; 10.10 & 11.04 with sweets_distribution. Wiki Page updated

2012-03-05 Thread James Cameron
On Mon, Mar 05, 2012 at 01:29:30AM -0800, Thomas C Gilliard wrote: > On 03/04/2012 09:21 PM, James Cameron wrote: > >Thanks. I've simplified > >http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Ubuntu some more, > >concentrating on how an Ubuntu user should try out Sugar. > > > >I've removed th

Re: [IAEP] Etoys or Scratch?

2012-03-05 Thread Samuel Greenfeld
Note that I did not state that professional programmers had to do this, although the way various states are leaning, licensed professional programmers may be required to do something like this in the United States within the next few years. I spent roughly 10 years doing volunteer ARES/RACES/emerg

Re: [IAEP] Etoys or Scratch?

2012-03-05 Thread Steve Thomas
Caryl, You may want to talk with Mike Lee who did some amazing work with the Lubuto Project using Etoys. So here are the pro's and con's of each platform if your are trying to solve the problems of: > animation, sound, possible narration, interaction and all that sort of

Re: [IAEP] Etoys or Scratch?

2012-03-05 Thread Maria Droujkova
I am very concerned about undue professionalization of every aspect of the life, versus the maker/DIY/crowdsourcing approach. Kids need to share their very imperfect ideas about serious life issues - disasters, health, parenting, science... They need to share openly, and in a space where discussio

Re: [IAEP] Etoys or Scratch?

2012-03-05 Thread Samuel Greenfeld
Although I cannot recommend a platform, I recommend being highly cautious about who generates and who edits material for a program which teaches disaster preparedness. Legal disclaimers will not be able to protect the author(s) if the information is blatantly incorrect, or even slightly misinterpr

Re: [IAEP] Etoys or Scratch?

2012-03-05 Thread Maria Droujkova
I would not use these programs. I would actually use Prezi. The simple answer to "Why" is the professional look of end product. Scratch and Etoys apps look childish (on purpose!!!) - like their names imply, the idea is to mess and play with things. I just would not take disaster preparedness info

Re: [IAEP] play dvds

2012-03-05 Thread Ken Hargesheimer
Thanks so much. I will get the help of my computer experts and go forward. Ken On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 4:25 PM, Jecel Assumpcao Jr. wrote: > Ken Hargesheimer wrote: > > In simple language, is there a way to make the XO play DVDs? > > Yes: you just connect a USB DVD drive to one of the USB ports

Re: [IAEP] play dvds

2012-03-05 Thread Ken Hargesheimer
I am aware of that but thought someone might have a way to make it play one. Several years ago, I had an XO. Impressed. OLPC's failure was marketing, in my opinion. Ken On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 4:27 PM, Tabitha Roder wrote: > >> >> The simple answer - The XO does not have a DVD drive so you can

Re: [IAEP] play dvds

2012-03-05 Thread Jecel Assumpcao Jr.
Ken Hargesheimer wrote: > In simple language, is there a way to make the XO play DVDs?  Yes: you just connect a USB DVD drive to one of the USB ports on the XO. I assume that the needed software is available in the normal distributions of Sugar for OLPC. If not, you could even distribute it on a D

Re: [IAEP] play dvds

2012-03-05 Thread Tabitha Roder
On 6 March 2012 11:09, Ken Hargesheimer wrote: > > I am not an expert [two friends are] on computers, etc but I am an expert > on using them. In simple language, is there a way to make the XO play > DVDs? > > Ken Hargesheimer > > The simple answer - The XO does not have a DVD drive so you cannot

Re: [IAEP] play dvds

2012-03-05 Thread Ken Hargesheimer
The multi-millions of people I am interested in helping do not have access to the internet. I can give them a 35¢ DVD with thousands of books on it or 2 hours of video and they can play it on a old, used computer. Study for hours. Library for schools, etc. The material is not copyrighted but so

Re: [IAEP] play dvds

2012-03-05 Thread Gary Martin
Hi Ken, On 5 Mar 2012, at 20:10, Ken Hargesheimer wrote: > I leave for Indonesia on the 15 Mar to teach organic, no-till farming. This > is my 21st country to live in or visit. I average more than one trip per > year. I work with subsistence farmers. Billions of people need the > educatio

Re: [IAEP] play dvds

2012-03-05 Thread Ken Hargesheimer
I leave for Indonesia on the 15 Mar to teach organic, no-till farming. This is my 21st country to live in or visit. I average more than one trip per year. I work with subsistence farmers. Billions of people need the educational video dvds and the data dvds that I have and that thousands of othe

Re: [IAEP] Etoys or Scratch?

2012-03-05 Thread Alan Kay
I'm not sure either would be ideal for a real multimedia piece. Cheers, Alan > > From: Caryl Bigenho >To: IAEP SugarLabs ; support-g...@laptop.org >Sent: Monday, March 5, 2012 10:22 AM >Subject: [IAEP] Etoys or Scratch? > > > >Hi Folks… > > >If you were g

Re: [IAEP] play dvds

2012-03-05 Thread Thomas C Gilliard
+1 Distribute as .iso or usb.img files for making USB's locally. Saves mailing USB-sticks On 03/05/2012 11:11 AM, Yamaplos . wrote: +1 or SD cards. Easy to build, replicate, scale a full library of resources that way. Per-piece cost higher than DVDs, but more than worth it as you can save yo

Re: [IAEP] play dvds

2012-03-05 Thread Yamaplos .
+1 or SD cards. Easy to build, replicate, scale a full library of resources that way. Per-piece cost higher than DVDs, but more than worth it as you can save your own work, interact with the system, update 2012/3/5, Tabitha Roder : > On Mar 6, 2012 6:29 AM, "Ken Hargesheimer" wrote: >> >> Ho

Re: [IAEP] play dvds

2012-03-05 Thread Tabitha Roder
On Mar 6, 2012 6:29 AM, "Ken Hargesheimer" wrote: > > How can the laptop be used to play DVDs? I am sending the document below around the world and I would like to tell people how to use it to play them. > > Ken Hargesheime Give content on USB not DVD. USBs don't snap so easily or get scratched,

[IAEP] Etoys or Scratch?

2012-03-05 Thread Caryl Bigenho
Hi Folks… If you were going to build an educational piece about disaster preparedness for possible cross platform worldwide distribution would you prefer to do it in Scratch or Etoys and why? The end product would need to be able to have animation, sound, possible narration, interaction and

Re: [IAEP] play dvds

2012-03-05 Thread Yamaplos .
best solution, don't! You cite many very good reasons why many people will not benefit from a full computer, but can benefit from DVDs. > 7B people are on the earth and 2B cannot read [400M in India. 2M in the > USA] but they can be educated using video/audio DVDs. Blind and deaf > people can be

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Sugar is available for download in Ubuntu 10.04 LTS; 10.10 & 11.04 with sweets_distribution. Wiki Page updated

2012-03-05 Thread Thomas C Gilliard
On 03/04/2012 09:21 PM, James Cameron wrote: Thanks. I've simplified http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Ubuntu some more, concentrating on how an Ubuntu user should try out Sugar. I've removed the sections that cover prior Sugar versions where Browse won't work, because that