Re: [IAEP] Sugar network/ School Network (Laura Vargas)

2016-05-20 Thread Sebastian Silva
El 20/05/16 a las 01:40, Tony Anderson escribió: > Hi, Laura > > I am sorry but that leaves me still unclear on the dependence on the > internet. If each machine becomes a node, why is it necessary for it > to be a server? Where is the main node? Where are the content resources? > > Tony Hi Tony,

Re: [IAEP] Sugar network/ School Network (Laura Vargas)

2016-05-20 Thread Tony Anderson
Hi, Sebastian and Laura Thanks, that clarifies things greatly. Tony On 05/20/2016 09:27 AM, Sebastian Silva wrote: El 20/05/16 a las 01:40, Tony Anderson escribió: Hi, Laura I am sorry but that leaves me still unclear on the dependence on the internet. If each machine becomes a node, why is

Re: [IAEP] Windows is Coming

2016-05-20 Thread Sean DALY
On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 8:46 AM, Tony Anderson wrote: > Windows 10 is making Ubuntu programs available by the command line - which > could be shortcuts. > Tony - text mode commandline only AFAIK, and Cygwin likely a better implementation Sean ___ IAEP

Re: [IAEP] Windows is Coming

2016-05-20 Thread Tony Anderson
Hi Sean, Do you mean commands written in text? The question may be whether Ubuntu programs can be started from a shortcut but I don't see how that would not be possible. The information I read did not imply starting an os (although I suppose that could be done by a vm). What I read was that thi

Re: [IAEP] Windows is Coming

2016-05-20 Thread Walter Bender
Also, FWIW, for the first time, Chromebooks are now outselling Macs. http://www.theverge.com/2016/5/19/11711714/chromebooks-outsold-macs-us-idc-figures (While you can boot GNU/Linux on many Chromebooks, I don't think this is a likely scenario for most schools.) -walter On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 2

Re: [IAEP] SPL Sugar Project Leader + Sugar Project Secretary + Auditor team?

2016-05-20 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi On 20 May 2016 at 00:38, Laura Vargas wrote: > What do you think? > Debian has 1,000s of active contributors. From what I can see, we have a couple dozen, tops, so I kindly offer that this kind of structuring is wasted effort. Here are the concrete actions that you listed, and how SL is get

Re: [IAEP] "Windows Is Coming"

2016-05-20 Thread Dave Crossland
On 20 May 2016 at 00:16, Samuel Greenfeld wrote: > If Sugar wants to be used in such environments, then it needs to work in a > Chromebook's web browser or as an installed app. > I think Sugar would be installed as a dualboot on Chromebooks. ___ IAEP -

Re: [IAEP] "Windows Is Coming"

2016-05-20 Thread Walter Bender
On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 8:56 AM, Dave Crossland wrote: > > On 20 May 2016 at 00:16, Samuel Greenfeld wrote: > >> If Sugar wants to be used in such environments, then it needs to work in >> a Chromebook's web browser or as an installed app. >> > > I think Sugar would be installed as a dualboot on

Re: [IAEP] Windows is Coming

2016-05-20 Thread Sean DALY
On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 12:46 PM, Tony Anderson wrote: > Do you mean commands written in text? Yes, AFAIK no graphics programs. Sean ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/lis

Re: [IAEP] "Windows Is Coming"

2016-05-20 Thread Dave Crossland
On 20 May 2016 at 09:05, Walter Bender wrote: > On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 8:56 AM, Dave Crossland wrote: > >> >> On 20 May 2016 at 00:16, Samuel Greenfeld wrote: >> >>> If Sugar wants to be used in such environments, then it needs to work in >>> a Chromebook's web browser or as an installed app.

Re: [IAEP] Windows is Coming

2016-05-20 Thread Sebastian Silva
While I have close-to-zero motivation to have activities run on Windows, they probably do already as GTK has run and is supported in windows since years ago. El 20/05/16 a las 08:30, Sean DALY escribió: > > On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 12:46 PM, Tony Anderson > wrote: >

Re: [IAEP] "Windows Is Coming"

2016-05-20 Thread Sebastian Silva
El 20/05/16 a las 07:56, Dave Crossland escribió: > I think Sugar would be installed as a dualboot on Chromebooks. My main machine was a chromebok for a couple of years until a thunderstorm took its life. It was wonderful hardware, almost fatally crippled with DRM. I had to dissassemble it, remo

Re: [IAEP] Windows is Coming

2016-05-20 Thread Dave Crossland
On 20 May 2016 at 09:56, Sebastian Silva wrote: > While I have close-to-zero motivation to have activities run on Windows Please explain why you feel this way. I am excited about the possibility of running Sugar activities on Windows and Mac OS X. ___

Re: [IAEP] "Windows Is Coming"

2016-05-20 Thread Sean DALY
On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 3:46 PM, Dave Crossland wrote: > Do you think Sugar's destiny is to become an app within another operating > system? I would rephrase this by quoting Scott Ananian: "what are the essential parts of the Sugar experience"? I would like these roughly as follows (you may

Re: [IAEP] Trip Advisor Agreement?

2016-05-20 Thread Walter Bender
On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 11:36 AM, Dave Crossland wrote: > > Hi > > In thread "Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [SLOBS] [SLOB] meeting reminder and > some open issues to discuss" on 11 May 2016 at 14:05, Laura Vargas < > la...@somosazucar.org> wrote: > >> there are ~US$65,000 available for planning/distri

Re: [IAEP] "Windows Is Coming"

2016-05-20 Thread Dave Crossland
On 20 May 2016 at 11:23, Sean DALY wrote: > > On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 3:46 PM, Dave Crossland wrote: > >> Do you think Sugar's destiny is to become an app within another operating >> system? > > > > I would rephrase this by quoting Scott Ananian: > > > "what are the essential parts of the Sugar

Re: [IAEP] "Windows Is Coming" (Dave Crossland)

2016-05-20 Thread Lionel Laské
2016-05-20 5:18 GMT+02:00 : > > If we want to grow Sugar's userbase 10x, I think Sugar must run not only on > GNU but also Windows and Mac OS X. > Guess I don't need to say that it's exactly my though :-) FYI, I've qualified Sugarizer on Windows 10. I've tested it both on Windows 10 Desktop and o

Re: [IAEP] "Windows Is Coming" (Dave Crossland)

2016-05-20 Thread Sam Parkinson
The idea of running Sugar on NaCl is a good idea in my opinion. * The Chrome web store "apps" are downloaded in some form - which is good as even an NaCl sugar would probs be 500mb+ * It would make a good "gateway sugar" for people as it is easy to run on many platforms. * I would think of it a

Re: [IAEP] "Windows Is Coming" (Dave Crossland)

2016-05-20 Thread Dave Crossland
Sam, I encourage you to find answers to that question :) Lionel, I don't mean to discourage or disparage your work. I wish to explore all the options for the future of the Sugar python codebase. I would not be surprised if in 5 years Sugar python has been completely abandoned and there is only Sug

Re: [IAEP] Windows is Coming

2016-05-20 Thread Sebastian Silva
El 20/05/16 a las 09:43, Dave Crossland escribió: > On 20 May 2016 at 09:56, Sebastian Silva > wrote: > > While I have close-to-zero motivation to have activities run on > Windows > > > Please explain why you feel this way. I am excited about the > possib

Re: [IAEP] SPL Sugar Project Leader + Sugar Project Secretary + Auditor team?

2016-05-20 Thread Laura Vargas
Hi! 2016-05-20 20:51 GMT+08:00 Dave Crossland : > Hi > > On 20 May 2016 at 00:38, Laura Vargas wrote: > >> What do you think? >> > > Debian has 1,000s of active contributors. From what I can see, we have a > couple dozen, tops, so I kindly offer that this kind of structuring is > wasted effort.