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Date: Fri, 20 May 2016 11:26:28 +0800
From: Laura Vargas <la...@somosazucar.org>
To: Tony Anderson <tony_ander...@usa.net>
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+08:00 Tony Anderson <tony_ander...@usa.net
<mailto:tony_ander...@usa.net>>:
Hi, Laura
Hi Tony!
Sorry about my confusing message with the digest title.
No problem :D
I tried the Sugar network several years ago but decided that it
was not usable because it
I am not sure of my arithmetic. Six mentors at $500 is $3000, so 10% is
$300 and 5% is $150. Leaving $2550 or $255 per mentor.
Tony
On 05/18/2016 02:37 PM, Dave Crossland wrote:
Hi
On 18 May 2016 at 04:15, Tony Anderson <tony_ander...@usa.net
<mailto:tony_ander...@usa.net&g
olenepal email address. Sigh.
Tony
On 05/19/2016 03:08 PM, Dave Crossland wrote:
Hi
On 19 May 2016 at 09:02, Tony Anderson <tony_ander...@usa.net
<mailto:tony_ander...@usa.net>> wrote:
It now takes forever to go through the myriad of emails I get each
day. The digest now do
and
so posts there
are rejected. On the other hand, my normal email cannot deliver messages
to gmail accounts. Sigh.
Tony
On 05/19/2016 02:43 PM, Dave Crossland wrote:
Hi Tony
On 19 May 2016 at 08:40, Tony Anderson <tony_ander...@usa.net
<mailto:tony_ander...@usa.net>> wrote:
So
Hi, Laura
Sorry about my confusing message with the digest title.
I tried the Sugar network several years ago but decided that it was not
usable because it is dependent on internet access. Is that
still the case?
Tony
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I tried this several years ago but decided that it was not usable
because it is dependent on internet access. Is that
still the case?
Tony
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I think motion A could be simplified:
The Finance Manager shall be appointed by a majority vote of the Sugar
Labs Oversight Board and may be either anon-voting officer or one of the
current Oversight Board members. The Finance Manager will serve at the
will of the Board and may be removed and
The information collected at first boot is not relevant to any personal
research. At deployments I am
familiar with, the first boot is done at installation time to check the
install and perform configuration.
At this time, the laptop has not been assigned to a user. For
deployments I work with,
Seems cloud based, not useful in many deployments.
Tony
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I think this started with an observation from Adam. We have used
deployment in the community to refer to the institution where the
laptops are located and the overall environment; hence, the Deployment
Guide. In our current context, Uruguay is not a deployment but each
school in Uruguay with
The Lion activity (https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Lion_Activity) has been
added to ASLO (activities.sugarlabs.org).
It is suitable for testing by localizers. The current version allows a
user to select a language (from those on the XO) and
an activity (from those installed on the XO with po
Hi, Sam
Your experience matches mine with 'homeview' (see
http://www.projectbernie.org - class page). I attempted to guide
learners in the use of
several activities with a slide show featuring a screen shot on each
slide. One example is Paint. I quickly found that the slides needed a
'hook',
Hi, Dave
On 04/25/2016 09:17 AM, Dave Crossland wrote:
Hi Tony
Would you be willing to post this wonderful email to the group thread? :)
On 24 April 2016 at 21:11, Tony Anderson <tony_ander...@usa.net
<mailto:tony_ander...@usa.net>> wrote:
Hi, Dave
I hope you can c
simulations and the like from the school server.
Tony
On 04/24/2016 12:38 PM, Dave Crossland wrote:
On 24 April 2016 at 00:00, Tony Anderson <tony_ander...@usa.net
<mailto:tony_ander...@usa.net>> wrote:
I have access to 3 deployments in Rwanda (120 laptops at one
school,
a contact who could provide us with good current information.
Tony
On 04/24/2016 12:21 PM, Dave Crossland wrote:
On 23 April 2016 at 23:45, Tony Anderson <tony_ander...@usa.net
<mailto:tony_ander...@usa.net>> wrote:
I really wish we had more information on where and how XOs
Dave,
This is exactly what we need. It will take a lot of work but the value
would make it very worthwhile.
I believe Adam Holt and the support-gang have the most information.
I have access to 3 deployments in Rwanda (120 laptops at one school,
probably 200+ at two others). I also have
Hi, Caryl
Of course, you are right. I really wish we had more information on where
and how XOs are used in the field. All I know is the experience of the
small number of deployments I am supporting.
Tony
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This is central to the 'vision'. In my 'vision', the goal is to promote
Sugar in the consumer world as an effective learning resource for
learners who
do not have access to computers or the internet (live on the wrong side
of the digital divide).
There are many commercial and non-profit
At the suggestion of several participants in this thread, I have created
a 'feature-like' description of a proposed
'Lion activity' at http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Lion_Activity. There
seems to a concensus that this is the best way to proceed
on this discussion.
Tony
On 04/21/2016 01:54 AM,
is
marvelously funded.
Tony
On 04/20/2016 08:26 AM, Dave Crossland wrote:
On 19 April 2016 at 18:50, Tony Anderson <tony_ander...@usa.net
<mailto:tony_ander...@usa.net>> wrote:
It might be good for comparison:
https://learningequality.org/ka-lite/.
VERY GOOD. Their platf
The Khan Academy Lite site seems to be similar in purpose to that of
SugarLabs.
It might be good for comparison: https://learningequality.org/ka-lite/.
In this context, perhaps, the XO is one of the supported platforms. The
site could give download and install instructions for major
+1 on both motions
Tony
On 04/08/2016 08:23 PM, Walter Bender wrote:
Apparently we did not actually get all the votes necessary to approve
a motion to pay Devin a $500 stipend for his time taken away from his
Day Job to help with the Turtle Blocks workshops at the
Constructionism Conference.
I move that the SugarLabs Oversight Board approve the position of
Translation-Community Manager as described at
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Translation-Community_Manager.
+1
I further move that Chris Leonard be named to this position effective
immediately.
+1
I further move that the
On 04/06/2016 09:52 PM, Sebastian Silva wrote:
El 06/04/16 a las 00:38, Tony Anderson escribió:
The formal motion was sent at 5pm April 5, 2016. It was seconded at
7:25pm April 5, 2016 (both times EST). Any changes to the TCM job
description made after the formal motion was submitted
Hi, Laura
The simplest answer is that is a part of the job of the TCM not the Board.
Tony
On 04/06/2016 11:39 PM, Laura Vargas wrote:
Tony,
What would be in place to explain, is why atfer the creation of the
position (first motion) SLOBs are not openly requiring proposals from
all
for
decision making bodies unless clear processes are used. There was
nothing in the history of the page to indicate it was part of a
motion.
I'd like to see some more transparency.
On Wed, Apr 06, 2016 at 02:58:21PM +0800, Tony Anderson wrote:
My point is that the motion was based on the wording
, 2016 at 01:38:46PM +0800, Tony Anderson wrote:
The formal motion was sent at 5pm April 5, 2016. It was seconded at 7:25pm
April 5, 2016 (both times EST). Any changes to the TCM job description made
after the formal motion was submitted and seconded should not be considered in
votes on the motion
<https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Translation_Team/Coordinator>//, or any
other party interested in helping out with localization./
I hope it is taken well. It does not modify the motions in place at all.
Regards,
Sebastian
El 05/04/16 a las 04:32, Tony Anderson escribió:
I submitted motions
I submitted motions to the Board as follows:
I move that the SugarLabs Oversight Board approve the position of
Translation-Community Manager as described at
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Translation-Community_Manager.
I further move that Chris Leonard be named to this position effective
1600 UTC is midnight here in the Philippines. This will, of course,
improve in May when I will be on the same time as Lionel.
Tony
On 02/05/2016 05:52 AM, Sameer Verma wrote:
I can do 1600 UTC. I think you meant Feb 12?
Sameer
On Feb 4, 2016 1:18 PM, "Walter Bender"
There seem to be two independent problems.
First, make an updated version of the IIAB OSM. The goal is to
understand what are the computer requirements to do this and how long it
takes and then be able to make a new version whenever needed.
Second, make available more detail than IIAB OSM
Hi, Sebastian
Interesting, this author sees what we are trying to do as facilitating
the terrible future in which teachers are robots.
The missing ingredient, of course, is education. The best teachers I
encountered in school had the wide perspective of an educated
person that enabled them
Hi,
I also stumbled on this:
http://www.raspberrypi.org/benton-park-live-coding-orchestra-the-planets/.
Sounds good.
Tony
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Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2015 09:24:18 +0200
From: Christophe Gu?retchristophe.gue...@dans.knaw.nl
To: Liste
Richa
On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 5:53 PM, Tony Anderson
tony_ander...@usa.net mailto:tony_ander...@usa.net wrote:
That's about right. The school servers are located at
deployments which do not have access to the internet and so
must rely on open educational
You are a troll according to the Wiktionary definition of 'to troll':
(to post inflammatory material so as) to attempt to lure others into
combative argument for purposes of personal entertainment and/or
gratuitous disruption, especially in an online community or discussion.
Tony
On
The Project Bernie website has been updated (www.projectbernie.org).
This site provides a representative view of what a school server loaded
from BERNIE provides
to an XO at a deployment.
The update releases the first edition of the 'hands-on computing'
courses in the Explore section of the
I have received instant feedback from Lionel Laske and John Gilmore -
thanks.
The site was broken (course in Python track on Hacking Ciphers and first
course in Web track. The problem has been resolved.
The course in the Python track on Pygame is still broken, working on it.
Sorry,
Tony
.
Secondly, Eloquent javascript chapters are giving Internal server
errors. I tried first few, they were all giving errors.
Thanks
Vibhor
On Apr 14, 2015 2:11 PM, Tony Anderson tony_ander...@usa.net
mailto:tony_ander...@usa.net wrote:
The Project Bernie website
As the story points out, these are problems that were and are well
known. One of the largest problems in Rwanda is that only 250 schools
were found in the initial deployment that had electricity. This is a
problem that has hampered deployment of the laptops from the beginning.
The focus of the
, 2015 at 1:40 AM, Tony Anderson tony_ander...@usa.net
mailto:tony_ander...@usa.net wrote:
Sean,
I think you are getting at what I consider the heart of the
problem. SugarLabs sees Sugar as an alternative GUI for any
computing device with primary efficacy in the developed
Sean,
I think you are getting at what I consider the heart of the problem.
SugarLabs sees Sugar as an alternative GUI for any computing device with
primary efficacy in the developed, internet-connected world. This goal
is understandable since the XOs have a limited life and so Sugar must be
Hi, Walter
This could lead to a most unproductive discussion. My main point is that
there should be focus on what new
educational opportunities we are offering to our users. I am saddened to
see such wonderful new activities developed using the web technology
which are totally unavailable to
Thanks for this.
In an after school environment, this strategy should work very well. It
means that someone must be the firestarter, perhaps at a pre-school
training session.
I am not sure about how this could be accomplished where after-school
programs are not feasible. At some of the
Hi, Gonzalo
Must we rewrite 300 Sugar activities because Python is obsolete? If we
are committed to Android, have we looked at making Python viable there?
Are we facing lock-down on these machines or can we run Fedora/Sugar on
a tablet without Android?
If I understand you, then Etoys no
Hi, Caryl
Etoys is also supported by a web site: http://etoysillinois.org/ which
is somewhat comparable to the Scratch site. If Etoys to Go works on an
XO, then the contents of the usb drive could be copied to a folder on an
XO and run from there. The 10 videos from Waveplace provide an
Hi, Gonzalo
I am an old curmudgeon, so please excuse any bad email manners.
The Sugar development team has done a superb job of keeping up with the
changing technologies.
My point is only that when Sugar is evaluated going forward, it will be
on its success in delivering a superior
Hi, Gonzalo
My sense is that a lot of the work in the past seven years has been in
keeping Sugar up to date with
the upstream system - getting Sugar as a desktop in Fedora was a major
effort. As you point out, this effort
was essential. Moving to first-class support for html5/css/javascript is
Hi, Sean
I thought the strategy of OLPC was very clear - sell national
governments on providing laptops to all of their children. However,
OLPC, independent of this strategy, made two critical decisions: G1G1
and using open software that have made all the difference.
The open software
I have finished categorizing the Sugar activities on BERNIE. The Backup
and Backup4G are the activities installed on the standard builds. The
Standard activities that I believe work without restriction. The Spanish
category is evident. The Web activity are activities that require
web-service
This is certainly a vital topic for many of us.
I have been hands-on with a number of deployments. In the case of
Rwanda, a lot of money has been invested in an effort to provide a
laptop to every elementary school child in the country. I feel that
project needs any support we can give it to
of later
versions of Sugar, I haven't seen it do that.
On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 9:03 PM, Tony Anderson tony_ander...@usa.net
mailto:tony_ander...@usa.net wrote:
Hi, Sora
The idea would be that a comments on a book (accession) would be
linked from the accession record.
There is also
doing.
On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 7:52 PM, Tony Anderson
tony_ander...@usa.net mailto:tony_ander...@usa.net wrote:
Also on the list is a 'comments' capability so that learners
can make comments and give rankings for the books they read
from the school server library
Hi, Sora
I have been using zim desktop wiki. I think it would fit this
application very well. It installs and runs on
all versions of XO.
Download zim-0.62.tar.gz from the Zim Desktop WIki site.
I have attached the sugar activity that I am using to launch zim from
the Sugar side. It is
Oops! I forgot to include the install script:
tar -xvf zim-0.62.tar.gz
cd zim-0.62
sudo python setup.py install
cd -
rm -rf zim-0.62
sugar-install-bundle zim-4.xo
The easy way is to use a 4GB usb drive (with 1-2GB free). Suppose the
drive label is XYZ.
Copy the tarball to this drive. Copy
Hi, All
I have finally got most of the project bernie site
(www.projectbernie.org) showing what is available on the school server.
The major missing piece is the 'homeview' button on the Class page. This
piece is being uploaded at the moment and with luck will be added later
today.
I think
Hi,
First, the xs-setup-network script sets up a port which expects the WAN
side to supply an IP via
DHCP. If your internet provider expects something else, the port should
be re-configured.
Second, a more direct way to test would be to ping Google's dns site:
ping 8.8.8.8
Yours,
Tony
BERNIE (Basic Educational Resources Needed for Innovative Education) has
a website:
http://www.projectbernie.org
It now has documentation of the capabilities based on screenshots from
an XO-1.5 using a schoolserver with
the BERNIE content installed. Those who are interested in what can be
Hi,
Just a note:
Prior to 12.1.0, the path was /media/??? This is a little problematic
because:
cd /media/
ls
on a 12.1.0 shows nothing (on an earlier system you should see ???).
Also on an earlier system:
cd /run/media/olpc
will show No such file or directory.
On 12.1.0, if you cd
Hi,
OLE Nepal has deployed such a library since 2008. See www.pustakalaya.org.
The library is based on Fedora Commons and Fez.
I have rehosted most of the English language collection on Django (as is
Pathagar). This works with the WebKit version of the Browse Activity.
A selected item is
Hi,
The Eric site you linked says that it does not have authorization to
make the course available for download. Am I missing something?
Tony
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Hello,
I am working as a volunteer at a school in Rwanda. This subject is a
part of the curriculum in Rwanda. Primary science education in Rwanda is
mostly rote learning. One reason is that primary schools have no budget
to acquire anything beyond a few wall posters to support science
Hi,
I like it!
Tony
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Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 10:16:20 +1100
From: Sridhar Dhanapalansrid...@laptop.org.au
To: iaepiaep@lists.sugarlabs.org
Subject: [IAEP] Arduino Esplora
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Hi,
The Saint Jacob school has one laptop per child in grades 4, 5, and 6.
The teachers in the lower primary (K, grades 1, 2, and 3) want to use
them for selected lessons.
There needs to be a way for the work of each student who is sharing a
laptop to be kept separate. In particular, the
, of course!
On 12/02/2012 10:27 PM, Tony Anderson wrote:
Hi,
The Saint Jacob school has one laptop per child in grades 4, 5, and 6.
The teachers in the lower primary (K, grades 1, 2, and 3) want to use
them for selected lessons.
There needs to be a way for the work of each student who is sharing
Hi,
Unfortunately this neat proposal doesn't address the Journal (nor my
problem of delivering the correct educational content per the grade
level of the user).
On balance, the risk of work being done by one user in the name of
another is probably not worth the 'screensaver' strategy. In
.
-walter
On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 6:12 AM, Tony Anderson tony_ander...@usa.net wrote:
Hi,
Just a footnote. There may be some who are not aware that Alice is based on
AIML:
http://www.alicebot.org/aiml.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AIML
The AIML engine in Speak is written in Python
Hi,
Perhaps we can get Alfonso Calero to join this list. I am not sure
whether he has a development issue with XS or an application issue on
how to use it. I would certainly need more information before I could
provide any useful guidance.
Tony
On 11/10/2012 12:00 PM,
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Subject: Re: help for XS request
Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2012 12:24:03 -0500
From: Tony Anderson t...@olenepal.org
To: iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org
Hi,
A common method is to transfer the data by exporting a CSV file from
Excel. The result is a plain text flat file
Hi,
Bravo!
Tony
On 10/16/2012 10:36 AM, Andres Aguirre wrote:
I think you guys will enjoy this:
http://www.olpcnews.com/use_cases/technology/usb4butia_a_truly_free_as_in_freedom_input_output_board.html
all the best
andres
On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 10:20 PM, Andres Aguirre
Hi,
I am wondering how this TI MSP430 running on XO 1 - Robotics! relates to
the Butia project in Uruguay. Is this a better solution?
What appeals to me the most about Butia is that it enable the child to
its own XO driving the vehicle. Can this be done with the MSP430?
In Uruguay there
Hi,
I would love to see you at the SF meeting to explain Butia to that audience.
It was my understanding in Montevideo, that the robot is controlled
directly from Turtle Art. For me, the really great thing you have done
is to strap the laptop on the robot platform. This is not for cute
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Hi, Yama
My measure is whether the laptops are in the box or in the hands of the
children. I am working with a school in Rwanda where the laptops are
normally in a charging rack (same as in a box).
Sadly, the laptops are more often in the charging racks.
One problem is that the school
Hi,
The Khan Academy web site (http://www.khanacademy.org/) is announcing
today a 'playlist' on computer science. It appears to be an introduction
to programming based on Python!
Tony
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Hi,
Is this 'great minds think alike?'
Tony
On 08/15/2012 04:35 PM, Walter Bender wrote:
On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 3:42 AM, Tony Andersontony_ander...@usa.net wrote:
Hi,
The Khan Academy web site (http://www.khanacademy.org/) is announcing today
a 'playlist' on computer science. It appears
:
On 2012-06-19, at 20:53, Tony Anderson wrote:
5. Make sure the Kls_demo_1.tar.bz2 file is unpacked on a usb drive.
The Learn activity checks all the mounted drives for a folder: kls.
That was the missing puzzle piece. I's still weird to require the USB drive
even after I copied everything
is this supposed to work? Don't give me scripts, but explain, please. I
jumped through all these hoops because I really wanted to see it working.
- Bert -
On 2012-06-19, at 16:36, Tony Anderson wrote:
Hi,
Thanks for pointing this out. We always seem to miss the obvious in
documentation
through all these hoops because I really wanted to see
it working.
- Bert -
On 2012-06-19, at 16:36, Tony Anderson wrote:
Hi,
Thanks for pointing this out. We always seem to miss the obvious in
documentation.
The website I am referring to is the one linked from activity page
, at 20:53, Tony Anderson wrote:
5. Make sure the Kls_demo_1.tar.bz2 file is unpacked on a usb drive.
The Learn activity checks all the mounted drives for a folder: kls.
That was the missing puzzle piece. I's still weird to require the USB drive
even after I copied everything to the activity's
Hello,
Today, Version 51 of the Learn activity has been posted to
Activities.Sugarlabs.org. This version is intended for use
by deployments to evaluate its usefulness in their context.
It has a separate (45mb) file of content which can be downloaded
from the website. The website also has
Hi,
I have decided to return to Rwanda (I already had the return side of my
ticket paid). A group in Stuttgart has provided 100 XO-1.5s to the St.
Jacob's school in Kigali. As a private school, they are not as directly
bound to Mineduc.
I was pleased to see a strong interest in the
I think the Khan Academy environment needs to be rehosted on a school server.
In many deployments, schools do not have consistent broadband access to the
internet. The school server provides the main storage via a 3.5 hard drive
while the XO storage (1GB) can be thought of as a cached with the
Hi,
I am trying to install pathagar on my schoolserver (having a little
trouble configuring httpd correctly). I hope to start with a
representative sample of the English items in Pustakalaya
(www.pustakalaya.org).
I believe the library needs to handle not only e-books but also media
Subject: [Fwd: activities]
Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 14:46:27 +0200
From: Tony Anderson tony_ander...@usa.net
To: Wade Brainerd wad...@gmail.com, Simon Schampijer
si...@schampijer.de, Aleksey Lim alsr...@member.fsf.org, iaep
iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org
Wade,
I have finally posted the ShowNTell activity
: Thu, 07 May 2009 10:42:20 +0545
From: Tony Anderson tony_ander...@usa.net
To: Wade Brainerd wad...@gmail.com
Wade,
I have been working on some activities which are nearly ready to post.
Each of them is a significant change to an existing activity. The
question is whether to treat the new versions
Hi,
I am in Berlin and will be through June 28. I plan to attend LinuxTag.
If there is anything I can do to help, please let me know.
Yours,
Tony
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Hi,
I have added my name. I should be available in the booth as needed,
although my knowledge of German is minimal. I will try to be there on
Tuesday to help with booth setup.
Tony
Simon Schampijer wrote:
On 06/21/2009 06:34 PM, Tony Anderson wrote:
Hi,
I am in Berlin and will be through
Hi,
I am working on ClassroomPresenter. The primary goal is to make it
possible to author slideshows on the XO. In addition, I am adding the
capability to provide voice narration for the slides. This version will
probably be renamed 'ShowNTell.activity' to reflect the use by students
to make
Hi,
Check out http://voicethread.com. I think that is the next level you
were refering to.
Tony
Caroline wrote:
Today I visited a computer lab at a school in Boston where 3-5 year olds
(the PreK class) were using the computers in the computer lab.
The teacher tried to get them to use
Hi,
Actually the model for the website/wiki already exists. It is DART at
the Bering Straits School District. They have married mediawiki with
their own software to provide a killer tool. The standards, lesson
plans, etc. are in a wiki. DART maintains a data base which allows
teachers to
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