Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Running sugar at almost-native speeds in Windows

2009-03-15 Thread Sebastian Dziallas
Wade Brainerd wrote: On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 7:04 PM, Dave Bauer dave.ba...@gmail.com wrote: Actually, you can create a .vmdk from .img using the QEMU tools. It's just that .vmdk is much more widely supported that .img so it would save a conversion step for most VM users. I agree that we

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Running sugar at almost-native speeds in Windows

2009-03-15 Thread Wade Brainerd
On Mar 15, 2009, at 6:21 AM, Sebastian Dziallas sebast...@when.com wrote: Wade Brainerd wrote: On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 7:04 PM, Dave Bauer dave.ba...@gmail.com wrote: Actually, you can create a .vmdk from .img using the QEMU tools. It's just that .vmdk is much more widely supported

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Running sugar at almost-native speeds in Windows

2009-03-15 Thread David Farning
On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 5:21 AM, Sebastian Dziallas sebast...@when.com wrote: Wade Brainerd wrote: On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 7:04 PM, Dave Bauer dave.ba...@gmail.com wrote: Actually, you can create a .vmdk from .img using the QEMU tools.  It's just that .vmdk is much more widely supported that

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Running sugar at almost-native speeds in Windows

2009-03-13 Thread Dave Bauer
On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 1:44 PM, Dave Bauer dave.ba...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 1:17 PM, Wade Brainerd wad...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 11:08 PM, Luke Faraone l...@faraone.cc wrote: Virtualbox is Free and potentially similar. Also, coLinux requires

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Running sugar at almost-native speeds in Windows

2009-03-12 Thread Dave Bauer
On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 1:17 PM, Wade Brainerd wad...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 11:08 PM, Luke Faraone l...@faraone.cc wrote: Virtualbox is Free and potentially similar. Also, coLinux requires Administrator privileges to run, so students on school computers probably can't

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Running sugar at almost-native speeds in Windows

2009-03-12 Thread Luke Faraone
On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 4:12 PM, Dave Bauer dave.ba...@gmail.com wrote: But really, all we need to be doing is producing .vmdk files (virtual disk images) for our SoaS snapshots. These files can be loaded in any of VMware, VirtualBox and Parallels, and can be used with QEMU after a command

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Running sugar at almost-native speeds in Windows

2009-03-12 Thread Wade Brainerd
On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 5:45 PM, Luke Faraone l...@faraone.cc wrote: On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 4:12 PM, Dave Bauer dave.ba...@gmail.com wrote: But really, all we need to be doing is producing .vmdk files (virtual disk images) for our SoaS snapshots.  These files can be loaded in any of VMware,

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Running sugar at almost-native speeds in Windows

2009-03-12 Thread Dave Bauer
Actually, you can create a .vmdk from .img using the QEMU tools. It's just that .vmdk is much more widely supported that .img so it would save a conversion step for most VM users. I agree that we should be providing 1 click solutions *in addition* to providing .vmdk files for people who

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Running sugar at almost-native speeds in Windows

2009-03-12 Thread Wade Brainerd
On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 7:04 PM, Dave Bauer dave.ba...@gmail.com wrote: Actually, you can create a .vmdk from .img using the QEMU tools.  It's just that .vmdk is much more widely supported that .img so it would save a conversion step for most VM users. I agree that we should be providing

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Running sugar at almost-native speeds in Windows

2009-03-11 Thread Wade Brainerd
On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 11:08 PM, Luke Faraone l...@faraone.cc wrote: Virtualbox is Free and potentially similar.  Also, coLinux requires Administrator privileges to run, so students on school computers probably can't use it.[1] Don't VMs on Windows require admin privileges to install and/or

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Running sugar at almost-native speeds in Windows

2009-03-10 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Luke Faraone wrote: On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 7:55 PM, Martin Dengler mar...@martindengler.comwrote: Interesting but you'd need an X server running on Windows, according to http://colinux.wikia.com/wiki/XCoLinux (IIUC). So you're still going to

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Running sugar at almost-native speeds in Windows

2009-03-10 Thread Sascha Silbe
On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 09:26:59PM -0400, Benjamin M. Schwartz wrote: So, the principal difficulty with using coLinux with Sugar is that it uses a Windows-side X server, which provides its own window manager. We need to use our own, custom-configured window manager, in order for the GUI to

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Running sugar at almost-native speeds in Windows

2009-03-10 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sascha Silbe wrote: On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 09:26:59PM -0400, Benjamin M. Schwartz wrote: So, the principal difficulty with using coLinux with Sugar is that it uses a Windows-side X server, which provides its own window manager. We need to use

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Running sugar at almost-native speeds in Windows

2009-03-10 Thread Luke Faraone
On 3/10/09, Benjamin M. Schwartz bmsch...@fas.harvard.edu wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sascha Silbe wrote: On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 09:26:59PM -0400, Benjamin M. Schwartz wrote: So, the principal difficulty with using coLinux with Sugar is that it uses a