Re: [IAEP] journal criticism (was Re: Re: Re: [RELEASE] TurtleArt-51)

2009-05-29 Thread forster
this mail got lost in the ether for 2 days, its old stuff and has been discussed long ago: [sorry, I am not on sugar-devel list] Hi Tomeu Two points expanded: altering the filenames and extensions of email attachments Could you please expand on this use case? Using webmail,

Re: [IAEP] Journal criticism

2009-05-28 Thread Albert Cahalan
Tomeu Vizoso writes: On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 20:20, Lucian Branescu lucian.branescu at gmail.com wrote: I'm new to Sugar, so I may be horribly wrong. But to me, the Journal seems more of an annoyance than anything else. A lot of the work I see done is towards bringing back some of the

Re: [IAEP] Journal criticism

2009-05-28 Thread Albert Cahalan
Tomeu Vizoso writes: On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 04:54, forster at ozonline.com.au wrote: I am happy to expand this to the list. I have raised the journal once or twice before but mainly kept quiet not wanting to be trollish. ... The journal and sharing are probably the two central things that

Re: [IAEP] Journal criticism

2009-05-28 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 5:49 AM, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote: On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 04:58:17AM -0400, Albert Cahalan wrote: Tomeu Vizoso writes: I think it's very important if we want to keep pushing Sugar that we distinguish between design decisions and bugs and unimplemented

Re: [IAEP] Journal criticism

2009-05-28 Thread Sascha Silbe
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 09:58:27AM +1000, fors...@ozonline.com.au wrote: hierarchical views of the underlying filesystem Which parts of the filesystem are you talking about (other than external storage) exactly? The system (i.e. anything outside /home)? Sugar config files? Installed

[IAEP] journal criticism (was Re: Re: Re: [RELEASE] TurtleArt-51)

2009-05-28 Thread forster
[sorry, I am not on sugar-devel list] Hi Tomeu Two points expanded: altering the filenames and extensions of email attachments Could you please expand on this use case? Using webmail, you save a mail attachment to the journal, the filename is not preserved. Using webmail you retransmit

Re: [IAEP] journal criticism (was Re: Re: Re: [RELEASE] TurtleArt-51)

2009-05-27 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 16:09, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 9:45 AM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: [snip] File turtle_art-51.xo from http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/downloads/file/26052/turtle_art-51.xo.; As soon as I

[IAEP] Journal criticism

2009-05-27 Thread James Simmons
Tomeu, I've said this before, but maybe I can repeat it once more: 1). I like the idea of the Journal. I would not want to change the Journal proper to support putting items in hierarchies. 2). Having said that, I don't always like the Journal Activity. The biggest problem I have with it

Re: [IAEP] Journal criticism

2009-05-27 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 19:34, James Simmons jim.simm...@walgreens.com wrote: Tomeu, I've said this before, but maybe I can repeat it once more: 1).  I like the idea of the Journal.  I would not want to change the Journal proper to support putting items in hierarchies. 2).  Having said

Re: [IAEP] Journal criticism

2009-05-27 Thread Lucian Branescu
I'm new to Sugar, so I may be horribly wrong. But to me, the Journal seems more of an annoyance than anything else. A lot of the work I see done is towards bringing back some of the properties that regular filesystems have What advantage does it have as opposed to a regular filesystem with

Re: [IAEP] Journal criticism

2009-05-27 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 20:20, Lucian Branescu lucian.brane...@gmail.com wrote: I'm new to Sugar, so I may be horribly wrong. But to me, the Journal seems more of an annoyance than anything else. A lot of the work I see done is towards bringing back some of the properties that regular

Re: [IAEP] Journal criticism

2009-05-27 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 20:39, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 20:20, Lucian Branescu lucian.brane...@gmail.com wrote: I'm new to Sugar, so I may be horribly wrong. But to me, the Journal seems more of an annoyance than anything else. A lot of the work I see

Re: [IAEP] Journal criticism

2009-05-27 Thread Lucian Branescu
Right, that does make it a bit more clear. I feel however that there should be a way to mount the Journal as a regular filesystem without losing too much information (put stuff in folders according to labels, put activities in their own folder, etc.) 2009/5/27 Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org:

Re: [IAEP] Journal criticism

2009-05-27 Thread James Simmons
Tomeu Vizoso wrote: 4). For the Journal proper, I agree that a temporal view has value. However, in addition to that I'd like to sort by the Title meta tag. This would be a natural for etexts, because you could look for a book more easily if they were all in alphabetical order. If you had a

Re: [IAEP] Journal criticism

2009-05-27 Thread James Simmons
Lucian, Other than the criticisms I mentioned in my email, I like the Journal. Even after years of working with PCs I still find myself occasionally saving something to the hard drive, then wondering where I saved it. My parents probably won't ever really master working with hierarchical