Re: [IAEP] Sugar Labs Individual Membership

2008-09-12 Thread Greg Dekoenigsberg
On Fri, 12 Sep 2008, Jim Gettys wrote: > Fedora is still a Red Hat trademark. > > That leaves Red Hat at least somewhat legally responsible. > > The CLA has caused serious heartburn for some (e.g. Bert Freudenburg) > and I've been on his side in that (because the issues he sees could have > appli

Re: [IAEP] Sugar Labs Individual Membership

2008-09-12 Thread Jim Gettys
Fedora is still a Red Hat trademark. That leaves Red Hat at least somewhat legally responsible. The CLA has caused serious heartburn for some (e.g. Bert Freudenburg) and I've been on his side in that (because the issues he sees could have applied to me in previous years). RH/Fedora is revising t

Re: [IAEP] Sugar Labs Individual Membership

2008-09-12 Thread Bernie Innocenti
Chris Ball wrote: >> Most project have some sort of agreement. > > Citation? Many of the largest free software projects in existence > have no such thing -- GNOME, Ubuntu, the Linux kernel -- and each > has widespread ties with all kinds of businesses. Ubuntu has the Code of Conduit, which you

Re: [IAEP] Sugar Labs Individual Membership

2008-09-11 Thread David Farning
On Fri, 2008-09-12 at 01:33 +0100, Chris Ball wrote: > Hi, > > On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 07:06:12PM -0500, David Farning wrote: > > > > What's the Individual Contributor Agreement, and why would we want one > > > > of those? Communities should wait until they get large before they > > > > start ins

Re: [IAEP] Sugar Labs Individual Membership

2008-09-11 Thread Walter Bender
> I'm struck by the disconnect between Greg's advice of "let anyone who > says they want to be a member be a member" and this new "let anyone who > enters into a legal agreement with us be a member"; my intuition sides > on the relaxed side of the continuum. On the other hand, isn't this exactly w

Re: [IAEP] Sugar Labs Individual Membership

2008-09-11 Thread Chris Ball
Hi, On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 07:06:12PM -0500, David Farning wrote: > > > What's the Individual Contributor Agreement, and why would we want one > > > of those? Communities should wait until they get large before they > > > start instituting bureaucracy that turns their potential new members > > >

Re: [IAEP] Sugar Labs Individual Membership

2008-09-11 Thread David Farning
On Fri, 2008-09-12 at 01:10 +0200, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: > On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 1:04 AM, Chris Ball <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, > > > > On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 03:38:45PM -0500, David Farning wrote: > >> An Individual member is someone who has made a significant and sustained > >> c

Re: [IAEP] Sugar Labs Individual Membership

2008-09-11 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 1:04 AM, Chris Ball <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 03:38:45PM -0500, David Farning wrote: >> An Individual member is someone who has made a significant and sustained >> contribution to the Sugar Labs ecosystem -- of any type -- and who has >> ex

Re: [IAEP] Sugar Labs Individual Membership

2008-09-11 Thread Chris Ball
Hi, On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 03:38:45PM -0500, David Farning wrote: > An Individual member is someone who has made a significant and sustained > contribution to the Sugar Labs ecosystem -- of any type -- and who has > explicitly agreed to the Individual Contributor Agreement. What's the Individual

Re: [IAEP] Sugar Labs Individual Membership

2008-09-11 Thread Sameer Verma
> Although it is difficult to specify a precise definition [snipped] This creates ambiguity. If it doesn't add to the process, I suggest we remove it altogether. Sameer -- Dr. Sameer Verma, Ph.D. Associate Professor of Information Systems San Francisco State University San Francisco CA 94132 US

[IAEP] Sugar Labs Individual Membership

2008-09-11 Thread David Farning
Here is a draft of the Individual Membership Guideline base on the feedback received over the last few days. Dfarning --- An Individual member is someone who has made a significant and sustained contribution to the Sugar Labs e