[IAEP] Topics & deliverables from Marketing IRC meeting 03-03-2009: Sugar 8.4 launch date set!

2009-03-05 Thread Sean DALY
http://sugarlabs.org/go/MarketingTeam/Meetings/03-03-2009 (note: I messed up with "#start-meeting" instead of "#startmeeting" so the meetbot did not log, many thanks to Tomeu and Mel for getting that transcript online at above link) Hi everyone - Monday, March 16th, 9:00AM EST is the date & time

Re: [IAEP] Topics & deliverables from Marketing IRC meeting 03-03-2009: Sugar 8.4 launch date set!

2009-03-05 Thread Gary C Martin
On 6 Mar 2009, at 00:53, Sean DALY wrote: > http://sugarlabs.org/go/MarketingTeam/Meetings/03-03-2009 > (note: I messed up with "#start-meeting" instead of "#startmeeting" so > the meetbot did not log, many thanks to Tomeu and Mel for getting that > transcript online at above link) > > > Hi everyo

Re: [IAEP] Topics & deliverables from Marketing IRC meeting 03-03-2009: Sugar 8.4 launch date set!

2009-03-05 Thread Sean DALY
No, not nitpicking! Let's be clear what the version number is. I have seen both "0.84" and "8.4" and "8.4.0" and "8.4.1", and for the nontechnical user the "build" number can be confusing. Which is it? Thanks Sean On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 3:10 AM, Gary C Martin wrote: > On 6 Mar 2009, at 00:

Re: [IAEP] Topics & deliverables from Marketing IRC meeting 03-03-2009: Sugar 8.4 launch date set!

2009-03-06 Thread Morgan Collett
On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 09:55, Sean DALY wrote: > No, not nitpicking! > > Let's be clear what the version number is. > > I have seen both "0.84" and "8.4" and "8.4.0" and "8.4.1", and for the > nontechnical user the "build" number can be confusing. > > Which is it? 0.84.0. It's a release of softwa

Re: [IAEP] Topics & deliverables from Marketing IRC meeting 03-03-2009: Sugar 8.4 launch date set!

2009-03-06 Thread Sean DALY
Extremely informative Morgan, many thanks indeed. I am confused! >From a marketing & PR point of view (bear with me please) I find it very odd that a version used by hundreds of thousands of children is still zero point something. The nontechnical computer-using mind historically assumes v1.0 is t

Re: [IAEP] Topics & deliverables from Marketing IRC meeting 03-03-2009: Sugar 8.4 launch date set!

2009-03-06 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 13:00, Sean DALY wrote: > Extremely informative Morgan, many thanks indeed. I am confused! > > From a marketing & PR point of view (bear with me please) I find it > very odd that a version used by hundreds of thousands of children is > still zero point something. Well, we h

Re: [IAEP] Topics & deliverables from Marketing IRC meeting 03-03-2009: Sugar 8.4 launch date set!

2009-03-06 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Mar 06, 2009 at 01:00:13PM +0100, Sean DALY wrote: >Extremely informative Morgan, many thanks indeed. I am confused! Marvellous introduction to your controversial proposal :-) >can we please consider a cleaner, more comprehensible numbering

Re: [IAEP] Topics & deliverables from Marketing IRC meeting 03-03-2009: Sugar 8.4 launch date set!

2009-03-06 Thread Antoine van Gelder
On 06 Mar 2009, at 14:37 , Tomeu Vizoso wrote: Anyone sees other interesting models on which to base our strategy? It's hardware and not software, but it is still an interesting model: http://antipastohw.blogspot.com/2009/03/introducing-open-source-hardware.html - antoine -- http://7degr

Re: [IAEP] Topics & deliverables from Marketing IRC meeting 03-03-2009: Sugar 8.4 launch date set!

2009-03-06 Thread Walter Bender
On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 7:37 AM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > But now we seem to have decided to push Sugar as a brand, much > stronger than GNOME has been to date. And we are also selling a > product: Sugar on a Stick. Perhaps we start a different numbering system for the "product". The first Sugar on

Re: [IAEP] Topics & deliverables from Marketing IRC meeting 03-03-2009: Sugar 8.4 launch date set!

2009-03-06 Thread Antoine van Gelder
On 06 Mar 2009, at 14:37 , Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > Anyone sees other interesting models on which to base our strategy? It's hardware and not software, but it is still an interesting model: http://antipastohw.blogspot.com/2009/03/introducing-open-source-hardware.html - antoine -- http://7d

Re: [IAEP] Topics & deliverables from Marketing IRC meeting 03-03-2009: Sugar 8.4 launch date set!

2009-03-06 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 06.03.2009, at 13:49, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > Proposal: Sugar 0.82 "Chocolate" Nice idea, but it's not google-compatible. Rather unlikely that "sugar chocolate" will lead one to discover 0.82 ... It's too bad "Sugar" is such a generic word :( - Bert -

Re: [IAEP] Topics & deliverables from Marketing IRC meeting 03-03-2009: Sugar 8.4 launch date set!

2009-03-06 Thread Luke Faraone
On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 8:54 AM, Bert Freudenberg wrote: > Nice idea, but it's not google-compatible. Rather unlikely that "sugar > chocolate" will lead one to discover 0.82 ... It's too bad "Sugar" is > such a generic word :( How about "Sugar Labs Chocolate"? :) -- Luke Faraone http://luke.fa

Re: [IAEP] Topics & deliverables from Marketing IRC meeting 03-03-2009: Sugar 8.4 launch date set!

2009-03-06 Thread Sean DALY
These comments have been very useful - thank you. I apologize for the long post below, but I feel the subjects are very important for the project, and with a week to go until the media launch we need to sort ourselves out. Jonas said: If you were too confused to say "I run Sugar 0.82 on OLPC-OS 8

Re: [IAEP] Topics & deliverables from Marketing IRC meeting 03-03-2009: Sugar 8.4 launch date set!

2009-03-06 Thread ,Josh williams
Hey everyone, I'm jumping on kind of late but here's my take. I don't think "sugar" is actually a very competitive term, even if it is a generic word. SugarLabs.org is already on the front page of google (6) from what I'm seeing (with a search for "sugar") on multiple data center searches. I d

Re: [IAEP] Topics & deliverables from Marketing IRC meeting 03-03-2009: Sugar 8.4 launch date set!

2009-03-07 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, Mar 07, 2009 at 01:36:37AM +0100, Sean DALY wrote: >Bert made a very astute observation: we need to be Googlable. Luke is >quite right, Sugar by itself is ungooglable and Sugar "needs" Labs >close by in this context. Searching just for the s

Re: [IAEP] Topics & deliverables from Marketing IRC meeting 03-03-2009: Sugar 8.4 launch date set!

2009-03-07 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 [sent again - to the marketing team too this time] On Sat, Mar 07, 2009 at 01:36:37AM +0100, Sean DALY wrote: >Bert made a very astute observation: we need to be Googlable. Luke is >quite right, Sugar by itself is ungooglable and Sugar "needs" Labs

Re: [IAEP] Topics & deliverables from Marketing IRC meeting 03-03-2009: Sugar 8.4 launch date set!

2009-03-07 Thread Sean DALY
Josh - reaching hundreds of thousands of teachers and parents is different from talking with half a dozen distributions (and OEMs too), and of course we need to do both - and we are. That said, I am convinced the more Sugar succeeds,the more distributions will be encouraged to include and promote i

Re: [IAEP] Topics & deliverables from Marketing IRC meeting 03-03-2009: Sugar 8.4 launch date set

2009-03-08 Thread Sean DALY
ce community are doing and should > invite active players at the launch of our projects soon. All efforts to get > digital lifestyle into education is well appreciated. > > David > > From: Sean DALY > To: iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org; Sugar Labs Mar

Re: [IAEP] Topics & deliverables from Marketing IRC meeting 03-03-2009: Sugar 8.4 launch date set!

2009-03-11 Thread Sameer Verma
On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 6:59 AM, Luke Faraone wrote: > On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 8:54 AM, Bert Freudenberg > wrote: >> >> Nice idea, but it's not google-compatible. Rather unlikely that "sugar >> chocolate" will lead one to discover 0.82 ... It's too bad "Sugar" is >> such a generic word :( > > How a

Re: [IAEP] Topics & deliverables from Marketing IRC meeting 03-03-2009: Sugar 8.4 launch date set!

2009-03-11 Thread Sean DALY
:D I call a lollipop a lollipop. But sugar crystals on a stick for tea/coffee swizzling are sometimes offered by very high-class caterers and making them is high-school chemistry stuff: http://chemistry.about.com/od/growingcrystals/ht/blsugarcrystal.htm http://z.about.com/d/chemistry/1/0/Y/e/roc