[IAEP] Unified Objects (was Unified bundles)

2009-04-07 Thread Aleksey Lim
If I understand Wade correctly the one of the main purposes(at least) is not hiding "content" bundles somewhere(for example in Browse's bookmarks) ..and I see your concern(for what reason we should create new entities if there are lots of existed content - Gutenberg's texts, pdfs, etc) ..I was thi

[IAEP] Unified Objects (was Unified bundles)

2009-04-09 Thread Michael Stone
Wade, Here are a couple of /very/ quick thoughts for you. Please let me know which ones are helpful and which are simply confusing (or misguided). Michael The basic premises of this rant are that "we need to be able to mix, match and dissect activities" so therefore activ

Re: [IAEP] Unified Objects (was Unified bundles)

2009-04-08 Thread Eben Eliason
On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 2:20 AM, Aleksey Lim wrote: > If I understand Wade correctly the one of the main purposes(at least) is not > hiding "content" bundles somewhere(for example in Browse's bookmarks) > ..and I see your concern(for what reason we should create new entities > if there are lots of

Re: [IAEP] Unified Objects (was Unified bundles)

2009-04-08 Thread Wade Brainerd
On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 9:12 AM, Eben Eliason wrote: > On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 2:20 AM, Aleksey Lim wrote: >> Proposal. >> >> To achieve this target, instead of inventing new versioning scheme in sugar >> (in addition to Journal), I propose treat Activities as regular Journal >> objects. > > I'm a

Re: [IAEP] Unified Objects (was Unified bundles)

2009-04-08 Thread Eben Eliason
On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Wade Brainerd wrote: > On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 9:12 AM, Eben Eliason wrote: >> On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 2:20 AM, Aleksey Lim wrote: >>> Proposal. >>> >>> To achieve this target, instead of inventing new versioning scheme in sugar >>> (in addition to Journal), I propo

Re: [IAEP] Unified Objects (was Unified bundles)

2009-04-08 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Wed, Apr 08, 2009 at 01:54:45PM -0400, Wade Brainerd wrote: > On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 9:12 AM, Eben Eliason wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 2:20 AM, Aleksey Lim wrote: > >> Proposal. > >> > >> To achieve this target, instead of inventing new versioning scheme in sugar > >> (in addition to Jou

Re: [IAEP] Unified Objects (was Unified bundles)

2009-04-08 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Wed, Apr 08, 2009 at 02:01:58PM -0400, Eben Eliason wrote: > On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Wade Brainerd wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 9:12 AM, Eben Eliason wrote: > > certainly provide a future path for activity versioning, promote the > > creation and modification of activities to be a

Re: [IAEP] Unified Objects (was Unified bundles)

2009-04-08 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Wed, Apr 08, 2009 at 09:12:17AM -0400, Eben Eliason wrote: > On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 2:20 AM, Aleksey Lim wrote: > > Benefits. > > > > With this scheme accepted user will have unified interface to all > > objects(and theirs versions) - content(generated by activities or > > downloaded from the i

Re: [IAEP] Unified Objects (was Unified bundles)

2009-04-08 Thread Wade Brainerd
The idea that activities actually exist in the Journal (and only in the Journal) is really exciting to me. To fully realize this, we should unpack their .xo bundles *into their Journal entry directory*, not /home/user/Activities. Also, the default Activities should be present in the Journal, whi

Re: [IAEP] Unified Objects (was Unified bundles)

2009-04-08 Thread Eben Eliason
On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 3:17 PM, Wade Brainerd wrote: > The idea that activities actually exist in the Journal (and only in > the Journal) is really exciting to me. > > To fully realize this, we should unpack their .xo bundles *into their > Journal entry directory*,  not /home/user/Activities. Yes

Re: [IAEP] Unified Objects (was Unified bundles)

2009-04-11 Thread C. Scott Ananian
Quick comment: you should probably be thinking about running activities *in place from their ZIP file* rather than storing the "unpacked" form in the Journal. This will lead to a much simpler implementation in the short term, since activities still have a single identity. There are a number of de