Re: Multiple address spaces

2006-02-11 Thread Gibney, Dave
I may be wrong, but I'll bet that "dynamic" adds to LPA fail if they would require an increase to common storage. Otherwise, it sounds quite dangerous and might lead to unscheduled IPLS. > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf

Re: Multiple address spaces

2006-02-11 Thread Johnny Luo
On 2/12/06, Gerhard Adam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The common area will NOT increase dynamically in that sense. What is > being referred to is the fact that when something is added to the common > area (typically LPA), the total allocation will be rounded to the next > megabyte (segment) boun

Re: Mainframe Jobs Going Away

2006-02-11 Thread Timothy Sipples
>Just had a brief conversation with one of our server gang ... mentioned >that they should try an IFL on the mainframe ... He claimed that a rep >(IBM?) was in once and stated that the 'processor speed' was only 900 >MHz so couldn't really compete with what we were looking for. I also >mentioned t

Re: State of the Mainframe - Part II: The Capacity Conundrum

2006-02-11 Thread Timothy Sipples
>It can be risky. *NOW* most Linux software is priced >per processor, regardless of processor type. Maybe "next >version" will be priced differently. No warranty. >AFAIR some time ago Oracle did "bad trick" - they >"repackaged" the software, so most of upgrade contracts >were not applicable - custo

Re: z/OS Console ID Tracking facility

2006-02-11 Thread Ed Gould
On Feb 11, 2006, at 2:57 PM, Edward E. Jaffe wrote: Ed Gould wrote: I can't recall of ever having to back off a JES2 fix. You were just lucky. I've had to back off several of them ... Perhaps, I had a few friends that were on the bleeding edge and always touched base with them before I

Need NaviQuest SMF Records To Test DAF

2006-02-11 Thread Michael Cleary
Greetings, I am in need of NaviQuest SMF Records to Test DAF. "SMF record type 127 is recorded by exit routine IGDACSSC. The SMF record contains the ACS variables which are used to generate ACS routine test cases. The test cases are generated by NaviQuest option 1.3." Cheers, Michael http:

Re: Multiple address spaces

2006-02-11 Thread Gerhard Adam
>However,if an address space has used up all of its available private area,will the force decrease of its private area cause problems?Say,you allocate a >100M region for a tso user and this user is executing a program in this address space which occupies all 100M virtual storage space.Then the co

Re: Multiple address spaces

2006-02-11 Thread Gerhard Adam
>True for the primary address space, but ever since MVS/ESA an >application could also allocate one or more dataspaces (for data storage >only, not executable code), and each of these could potentially be as >large as 2GiB, with none of that dataspace virtual address range >reserved for system/

Re: CLIST array variable?

2006-02-11 Thread Dave Salt
From: Paul Gilmartin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> No! Missed the point! If I wanted to display WOMBAT, I could simply do WRITE WOMBAT couldn't I? The objective is to assign to or display the variable whose (unspecified) name is in &COLOR. The Rexx equivalent would be: interpret color "= 'WOMBAT

Re: CLIST array variable?

2006-02-11 Thread Paul Hanrahan
I'm convinced that a clist array variable could be achieved since it's only an issue of symatic expression. The real question is time, cost and user acceptance. - Paul Hanrahan -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Se

Re: z/OS Console ID Tracking facility

2006-02-11 Thread Edward E. Jaffe
Ed Gould wrote: I can't recall of ever having to back off a JES2 fix. You were just lucky. I've had to back off several of them ... -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 Los Angeles, CA 90045 310-338-0400 x318 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.phoenixs

Re: CLIST array variable?

2006-02-11 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, Dave Salt said: > Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 19:39:48 + > > >From: Paul Gilmartin <[log in to unmask]> > >Let me see if I understand this: > > > > SET RED = 'WOMBAT' > > SET COLOR = RED > > PRINT &&COLOR/* Prints 'WOMBAT', Doesn't it? */ > > The CLIST sy

Re: Multiple address spaces

2006-02-11 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
Johnny Luo wrote: > Great example.If IBM readbooks have such detailed examples for beginners > ..I know it's impossible,so I would thank you again for it. > Maybe the last question I would like to raise is for the system common area it helps to have lived thru the whole thing and worked on much of

Re: FW: Mainframe Jobs Going Away

2006-02-11 Thread Gary Green
That's correct. Being absorbed by Macy's no less... -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Thorn Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 3:28 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: FW: Mainframe Jobs Going Away Strawbridge & Clothier

Re: CLIST array variable?

2006-02-11 Thread Dave Salt
From: Paul Gilmartin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Let me see if I understand this: SET RED = 'WOMBAT' SET COLOR = RED PRINT &&COLOR/* Prints 'WOMBAT', Doesn't it? */ The CLIST syntax to display WOMBAT would be as follows: SET RED = WOMBAT /* No quotes required */ SET COLOR = &RED

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2006-02-11 Thread Ed Gould
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Re: z/OS Console ID Tracking facility

2006-02-11 Thread Ed Gould
On Feb 11, 2006, at 12:13 PM, Edward E. Jaffe wrote: Ed Gould wrote: On Feb 10, 2006, at 10:12 AM, Knutson, Sam wrote: SNIP It seems like feeding any updates for vendor products not already listed in the current IBM sample

Re: Disk vs Tape senario

2006-02-11 Thread John S. Giltner, Jr.
Your tapes are faster than your DASD? If you have 100 files I personally would do it to DASD and then one run ftp job to push the 100 files down to unix. As I don't know how Platinums program works, I would even look at setting up the jobs so that one step unloads one table and then the next

Re: z/OS Console ID Tracking facility

2006-02-11 Thread Edward E. Jaffe
Ed Gould wrote: On Feb 10, 2006, at 10:12 AM, Knutson, Sam wrote: SNIP It seems like feeding any updates for vendor products not already listed in the current IBM sample to the console team is a good idea for the MVS community a

Re: Multiple address spaces

2006-02-11 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>In such cases, one achieves significantly better performance by running z/OS on z-architecture in 64-bit mode with all real memory configured as Central Storage, eliminating all CS/ES page transfers. You have to have a significant E/C transfer rate for this to be true. We had one CEC with that

Re: Multiple address spaces

2006-02-11 Thread Joel C. Ewing
Gerhard Adam wrote: So,the max size a user actual can get for his private use in a single address space=2G - the size of shared system area? Yes. For an address space the shared system area is common to all users and therefore represents storage that is unavailable to individuals. Adam True

Re: CLIST array variable?

2006-02-11 Thread Steve Comstock
To extend my own post, another experiment: SET RED = BLUE SET COLOR = &RED SET COLLAR = &&RED WRITE 'Write of &COLOR: ' &COLOR WRITE 'Write of &&COLOR: ' &&COLOR WRITE 'Write of &&COLLAR: ' &&COLLAR WRITE 'Write of &COLLAR: ' &COLLAR produces: 'WRITE OF BLUE: ' BLUE 'WRITE OF &

Re: Mainframe Jobs Going Away

2006-02-11 Thread R.S.
Timothy Sipples wrote: Well, we've got 2800+ mips in 2 z990s running DB2 for SAP. We are in the process of converting to run it all on Oracle, AIX and Pseries servers. I don't deal with the financial end, but I'm told we'll be saving lotsa $$. It looks like I'll be hanging up my mainframe hat (9

Re: CLIST array variable?

2006-02-11 Thread Steve Comstock
Paul Gilmartin wrote: In a recent note, Skip Robinson said: Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 16:26:47 -0800 I wouldn't characterize CLIST as 'always ignoring the first ampersand'. The ampersand in SET &COLOR = RED is *optional* because the position of the term to the left of the equal sign ma

Re: CLIST array variable?

2006-02-11 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, Skip Robinson said: > Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 16:26:47 -0800 > > I wouldn't characterize CLIST as 'always ignoring the first ampersand'. The > ampersand in > > SET &COLOR = RED > > is *optional* because the position of the term to the left of the equal > sign marks it a

Re: Have you ever abended IDCAMS?

2006-02-11 Thread Douglas Shupe
Marco, You did not mention the platform you are on so, VSE/ESA - IDCAMS - CANCEL STEP or CANCEL JOB z/OS - has a CANCEL but did NOT implement the CANCEL JOB. They claim conditional JCL is the answer - what a waste of key strokes. This lack of function has been on my list of requests to IBM fo

Re: Mainframe Jobs Going Away

2006-02-11 Thread Marian Gasparovic
Ted, I cannot agree more. All my customers run workloads on mainframe silently, in the background without problems. All distributed have problems, sometimes bigger sometimes smaller. They are visible and get attention and money. From time to time management asks what the h..l do they need mainframe