Re: IBM to the PCM market(the sky is falling!!!the sky is falling!!)

2007-04-07 Thread Timothy Sipples
Rick Fochtman writes: >Timothy, you're probably right as far as you go, but you, and other, >seem to have forgotten a very important aspect of running that "cheap" >z/800, etc. I refer to site preparation and operating costs. Not many of >us can afford three-phase power in our basements or garages

Re: IBM to the PCM market(the sky is falling!!!the sky is falling!!)

2007-04-07 Thread Steve Comstock
Timothy Sipples wrote: Rick Fochtman writes: Timothy, you're probably right as far as you go, but you, and other, seem to have forgotten a very important aspect of running that "cheap" z/800, etc. I refer to site preparation and operating costs. Not many of us can afford three-phase power in ou

Re: IBM to the PCM market(the sky is falling!!!the sky is falling!!)

2007-04-07 Thread R.S.
Ted MacNEIL wrote: I don't have a clue how many installations license MVS today According to a Canadian IBM'r, there are approximately 6,000 mainframe licences world-wide. To put it in perspective, there are approximately 230,000 Oracle licences. Ted, Others already criticised the numbers c

Re: What makes MASTER CONSOLE unique?

2007-04-07 Thread Bob Rutledge
W. Kevin Kelley wrote: Actually, its kind of funny that you mention the exits because I just finished an APAR that greatly improves both the written documentation and the mapping macro commentary for IEAVMXIT and the MPF exits. W. Kevin Kelley IBM POK Lab -- z/OS Core Technical Development

Re: IBM to the PCM market

2007-04-07 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. Anne & Lynn Wheeler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > since you mentioned it, i somewhat ran into some of this with working > on getting out virgil/tully (138/148) in th

Re: IBM to the PCM market(the sky is falling!!!the sky is falling!!)

2007-04-07 Thread Tom Moulder
R.S. I didn't realize this until last December, but there is something you can do with your Oracle licenses -- move them to another CPU. Strange as that may seem, Oracle licenses are by the number of CPUs, so a PC with a dual core Intel pays twice as much as a single core Intel. Likewise, a z/9

Re: IBM to the PCM market(the sky is falling!!!the sky is falling!!)

2007-04-07 Thread Shane
On Sat, 2007-04-07 at 07:09 -0600, Steve Comstock wrote: > Linux, Linux, and more Linux. Not that I've noticed in this country - leastwise not on z/Series > So I guess the message is "Kiss z/OS goodbye", eh? Let's hope not. Shane ... ---

Re: IBM to the PCM market(the sky is falling!!!the sky is falling!!)

2007-04-07 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>Oracle licenses are by the number of CPUs, so a PC with a dual core Intel pays >twice as much as a single core Intel. Not exactly on that. The price can vary depending on the manufacturer of the cpu chip. I saw John Anderson's presentation at a recent CMG Canada. - Too busy driving to stop fo

OT "Infamous Letter of Resignation"

2007-04-07 Thread Ed Gould
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Re: IBM to the PCM market(the sky is falling!!!the sky is falling!!)

2007-04-07 Thread Edward Jaffe
Alan Altmark wrote: On Fri, 6 Apr 2007 14:29:58 -0700, Edward Jaffe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Raw license counts are a much less important measure than how much data is stored and how many end users are accessing that data. But, Ed, that's a technologhical view. If you charge on a