out of the office

2010-11-08 Thread Steve Schwaller
I will be out of the office starting 11/07/2010 and will not return until 11/09/2010. If you need assistance prior to then please contact Ryan Evans at 216-471-2669. This communication may contain privileged and/or confidential information. It is intended solely for the use of the addressee. If

Re: PDSE versus PDS

2010-11-08 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <598332.62220...@web54606.mail.re2.yahoo.com>, on 10/25/2010 at 09:09 PM, Ed Gould said: >I know IBM got the vsam catalog right with minimal issues Both the original VSAM catalog and the4 ICF catalog had major issues. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position

Re: PDSE versus PDS

2010-11-08 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In , on 10/25/2010 at 07:11 AM, "Robert A. Rosenberg" said: >You have a "Chicken and Egg" situation with IPL Time support for >PDSEs. How much of an environment must exist before PDSEs support is > possible? They managed the equivalent in TSS/360. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysPr

Re: REDBOOKS Question

2010-11-08 Thread Marian Gasparovic
Ed, the answer is "it depends". Some of them are updated, have a look at Comm Server books, Connectivity Handbook (it is -11, which means 12 releases !). And some are not updated, it all depends. For example z10 Technical Guide was updated twice (GA2 and GA3). Will there be more updates ? Only if a

SV: Why are TSO IDs limited to 7 characters

2010-11-08 Thread Thomas Berg
> -Ursprungligt meddelande- > Från: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] För > Clark Morris > Skickat: den 5 november 2010 20:51 > Till: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Ämne: Re: Why are TSO IDs limited to 7 characters > > On 5 Nov 2010 07:18:14 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-mai

Re: Fast way of changing time - CBT File 639

2010-11-08 Thread Scott Rowe
This is what I put in my /etc/profile in 2007: TZ=EST5EDT,M3.2.0,M11.1.0 On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 8:47 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: > On Sun, 7 Nov 2010 19:23:00 -0500, Scott Rowe wrote: > > >gil, the TZ value can be specified with boundaries. I remember setting > them > >when the boundaries were ch

Re: IDCAMS ALTER and GDGs - From A(0) to B(+1) - Relative Generations

2010-11-08 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
At 11:04 -0500 on 11/07/2010, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote about Re: IDCAMS ALTER and GDGs - From A(0) to B(+1) - Relative G: >However, I'd prefer not to have to recommend absolute generations and versions. Why, as long as it's not hard coded? Years ago I was involved with a GDG setup

Re: SV: Why are TSO IDs limited to 7 characters

2010-11-08 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 8 Nov 2010 15:19:17 +0100, Thomas Berg wrote: > >One maybe possible solution would be having a sort of "alias" for the >longer id's. E g id's constructed as consecutive numbers: #123456. >And automatically substitute with the when needed (jobnames etc.). > z/OS Unix System Services provide

Re: REDBOOKS Question

2010-11-08 Thread Ed Gould
--- On Mon, 11/8/10, Marian Gasparovic wrote: From: Marian Gasparovic Subject: Re: REDBOOKS Question To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Date: Monday, November 8, 2010, 7:32 AM Ed, the answer is "it depends". Some of them are updated, have a look at Comm Server books, Connectivity Handbook (it is -11, whi

Re: Fast way of changing time - CBT File 639

2010-11-08 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 8 Nov 2010 09:36:50 -0500, Scott Rowe wrote: >This is what I put in my /etc/profile in 2007: >TZ=EST5EDT,M3.2.0,M11.1.0 > How does this show that the convention was different in 2006 and before, and further different before 1986? Try this test program: for HH in 00 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 0

Fast way of changing time - CBT File 639

2010-11-08 Thread Sam Golob
Hi Folks, I enjoy when someone makes a post, a second person makes a remark about the post - related or unrelated to the original intent - and the people go to town, commenting about the remark, and saying not one word about the original subject. It's a lot of fun to read all this, and we

Re: Fast way of changing time - CBT File 639

2010-11-08 Thread Scott Rowe
Time change, either forward or back, is a non-issue for us since we use STP, it just happens. On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 10:06 AM, Sam Golob wrote: > Hi Folks, > > I enjoy when someone makes a post, a second person makes a remark about > the post - related or unrelated to the original intent - and

Re: Fast way of changing time - CBT File 639

2010-11-08 Thread Brian Kennelly
We simply issue the appropriate SET TIMEZONE or SET CLOCK command on the appropriate day on the machines, and have not had problems for years. These commands do not change the TOD clock, and none of our software is sensitive to the local time. (We do follow up with a change to the CLOCKxx member,

Re: FTP--z/OS

2010-11-08 Thread Ron Wells
have a ftp that does not put to SYSLOG the output of the transmission...problem is... it suppose to by defaults I have set on the ftp server on z/os question>> is there a command an ftp server--not z/os that can be issued to turn logging off..? if so is there a way to stop the command from exte

Re: Fast way of changing time - CBT File 639

2010-11-08 Thread Mark Zelden
On Sun, 7 Nov 2010 11:11:28 -0500, Sam Golob wrote: >Hi Folks, > >CBT Tape File 639 from Hunter Zhou is a very fast and clever and "on >the fly" way of changing the system time, so you may not be forced to >IPL. SETHOUR is on File 639, and it is quite easy to set up, with 3 >procedures and a

Re: Fast way of changing time - CBT File 639

2010-11-08 Thread Jousma, David
I agree with Mark. Since the introduction of the SET TIMEZONE command, this CBT tool seems less useful. For quite a few years now, there have been no operating systems level components that are affected by time change, assuming you are running with GMT=GMT, and not GMT=LOCAL. Spring time change

Re: Why are TSO IDs limited to 7 characters?

2010-11-08 Thread john gilmore
This thread seems to have switched its attention from lamentations to circumventions, and these of course abound. The IBM HLASM supports an alias statement: The ALIAS instruction specifies alternate names for the external symbols that identify control sections, entry points, and exte

Re: Fast way of changing time - CBT File 639

2010-11-08 Thread Eric Bielefeld
I have another question on the time change. I was just looking at one of the systems we had down for an hour for the time change. I noticed that the OMVS time was never reset. The /SYSTEM/etc/profile dataset has: TZ=EST5EDT export TZ This hasn't been changed. Does this matter? According t

Re: Why are TSO IDs limited to 7 characters

2010-11-08 Thread Andreas F. Geissbuehler
Yes, the UADS and broadcast dataset required a "solution" which could be implemented efficiently using BDAM, BPAM and/or BSAM (pick one) to get a few hundred bytes off a 2314 disk (7294 bytes / track) too big for full-track blocking. In 1968 an IBM 360/50 with 256K (kilobytes) was a mid-range mai

Re: Fast way of changing time - CBT File 639

2010-11-08 Thread Mark Zelden
On Mon, 8 Nov 2010 16:33:08 +, Eric Bielefeld wrote: >I have another question on the time change. I was just looking at one of the systems we had down for an hour for the time change. I noticed that the OMVS time was never reset. The /SYSTEM/etc/profile dataset has: > >TZ=EST5EDT >export

Tivoli Storage Manager for z/OS (Functionally Stablized & Impending Demise)

2010-11-08 Thread bob molerio
Is anyone looking at replacing TSM altogether? TSM 5.5.X was great but the upgrade to 6.x is not only painful but is wrought with bugs. I know there are a few folks on this list that use FDR/UPSTREAM on zOS to backup Open Systems clients. I guess TSM on zLINUX is ok if don't mind the NFS option

TCPIP startup message, just curious

2010-11-08 Thread McKown, John
On my sandbox, I am working of a full "lights out" IPL automation. I have CAS9 start up via COMMND00. It starts up CA-OPS/MVS. It starts up JES2 on the OPS0123O message. Then everything else starts up based on messages. Well, I do a start on TCPIP when I see the IST020I message that says NET is

SMS Overflow Allocation

2010-11-08 Thread Carlson, Steve
I am running a Production Batch job and the following messages were generated: IGD17273I ALLOCATION HAS FAILED FOR ALL VOLUMES SELECTED FOR DATA SET 913 SYS10308.T075356.RA000.J121APHB.WHSEPLDT.H01 IGD17277I THERE ARE (6) CANDIDATE VOLUMES OF WHICH (6) ARE ENABLED OR QUIESCED IGD17290I THERE WERE

Re: TCPIP startup message, just curious

2010-11-08 Thread Staller, Allan
No prob. Just wait Or defer TCPIP startup until later in the IPL process. HTH, On my sandbox, I am working of a full "lights out" IPL automation. I have CAS9 start up via COMMND00. It starts up CA-OPS/MVS. It starts up JES2 on the OPS0123O message. Then everything else starts up based on m

Re: TCPIP startup message, just curious

2010-11-08 Thread William Bishop
I have had an automated IPL environment with OPS up for several years and I start TCP/IP after the IST020I message. I receive the EZZ9314E message during start-up. In the 5+ years I have had the automated IPL going, it has never presented an issue. Thanks Bill Bishop Specialist Mainframe Su

WARKOCZ, Thomas is out of the office.

2010-11-08 Thread Thomas Warkocz
Ich werde ab 08.11.2010 nicht im Büro sein. Ich kehre zurück am 12.11.2010. Bitte wenden Sie sich in dringenden Fällen an Jürgen Eberle( email: juergen.ebe...@ecs-group.com Telefon: +49 69 71408 4006) I am not in the office from 08.11.10. I am back on 12.11.10. In urgend cases please contact Jü

Re: SMS Overflow Allocation

2010-11-08 Thread Greg Shirey
Steve, According to z/OS V1R3 and V1R5 DFSMS Technical Guide MS Technical Guide http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/redbooks/pdfs/sg246979.pdf "The extend storage group is a feature of the pool storage group type designed to be used for secondary allocation when there is insufficient space available in

Re: TCPIP startup message, just curious

2010-11-08 Thread Petersen, Jim
If you are a purest and don't like messages, then do like I did when I did automation in a previous life. I waited on IST020I AND the OMVS initialization complete message and then started TCPIP. Otherwise, if you don't mind messages, then you can do like others have said and just let TCPIP wai

Re: SV: Why are TSO IDs limited to 7 characters

2010-11-08 Thread John McKown
I like that thought. UNIX does this by mapping a user I'd to a UID. In z/OS, we could call this a token which is 8 bytes long. You could then map the userid to the token and store it in the control blocks. I'm sure that it would be more complicated than I am envisioning at present. It would also be

Re: Fast way of changing time - CBT File 639

2010-11-08 Thread Eric Mendelson
--Original Message-- From: Paul Gilmartin Sender: IBM Mainframe Discussion List To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu ReplyTo: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Subject: Re: Fast way of changing time - CBT File 639 Sent: Nov 7, 2010 8:47 PM On Sun, 7 Nov 2010 19:23:00 -0500, Scott Rowe wrote: >gil, the TZ

Re: Fast way of changing time - CBT File 639

2010-11-08 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 8 Nov 2010 10:40:29 -0600, Mark Zelden wrote: >On Mon, 8 Nov 2010 16:33:08 +, Eric Bielefeld >wrote: > >>I have another question on the time change. I was just looking at one of >the systems we had down for an hour for the time change. I noticed that the >OMVS time was never reset.

Re: SMS Overflow Allocation

2010-11-08 Thread Mike Schwab
I get this all the time. The dataset has a small allocation that allows multiple volumes. They start their job, fill up all the extents on a volume, extend to another volume, fill it up, and keep extenting until they have allocations on all volumes. Then they try to extend to another volume and

Re: SMS Overflow Allocation

2010-11-08 Thread Carlson, Steve
Thanks, this has resolved the problem. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Greg Shirey Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 10:46 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: SMS Overflow Allocation Steve, According to z/OS V1R3 and V

DFHSM CDSs in extended format

2010-11-08 Thread Michael Wickman
Our MCDS is near the 4GB limit and is nearing the 80% utilize nag message notification, so we will need to split it or go extended format. All of our application data volumes are SMS so the SMS skill question is not an issue. I was just wondering how folks have handled this issue lately. Curre

SV: SV: Why are TSO IDs limited to 7 characters

2010-11-08 Thread Thomas Berg
In my suggestion the id was 7 bytes (to get around the problem with id's stored as 7 bytes mentioned in this thread earlier). And if it is a number it could be saved as a 4 (3) byte value. I'm not sure it would be expensive. As this conversion would be done when when needed, e g in TSO when l

Re: DFHSM CDSs in extended format

2010-11-08 Thread Mark Jacobs
We've had our HSM CDS's in EF (and using VSAM RLS) for many years now without any problems. Mark Jacobs -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Michael Wickman Sent: Mon 11/8/2010 4:42 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: DFHSM CDSs in extended format Our M

Re: DFHSM CDSs in extended format

2010-11-08 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2010-11-08 22:42, Michael Wickman pisze: Our MCDS is near the 4GB limit and is nearing the 80% utilize nag message notification, so we will need to split it or go extended format. All of our application data volumes are SMS so the SMS skill question is not an issue. I was just wonderi

Re: Fast way of changing time - CBT File 639

2010-11-08 Thread Mike Schwab
On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 1:38 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: > And the concept of exactly two time zones, "GMT" and "LOCAL" is > parochial.  There are 24 zones (actually far more), and a proper > conversion function has two arguments: > >    localtime( UTC, zone ) > > ... dealing with the need to operat

Re: DFHSM CDSs in extended format

2010-11-08 Thread Traylor, Terry
DFSMShsm supports VSAM KSDS extended addressability (EA) capability that uses any of the following for its CDSs: record level sharing (RLS) access mode, CDSQ serialization, or CDSR serialization. And you can use Extended Addressability. Terry Traylor charlesSCHWAB TIS Mainframe Storage Manage

Re: Rexx question - Dynamic generation of variables?

2010-11-08 Thread Frank Swarbrick
I have a hard time seeing that a non-programmer would find stem variables easy to understand, but maybe that's just me. When I was learning REXX I wish someone would have told me to just think of them as "keyed arrays" or "associative arrays", or even hashmaps, though I hate that term since to

Why are TSO IDs limited to 7 characters

2010-11-08 Thread Frank Swarbrick
>>> On 11/8/2010 at 7:19 AM, in message , Thomas Berg wrote: > > One maybe possible solution would be having a sort of "alias" for the > longer id's. E g id's constructed as consecutive numbers: #123456. > And automatically substitute with the when needed (jobnames etc.). I am not a number!

Re: PDSE versus PDS

2010-11-08 Thread Rick Fochtman
Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: In <598332.62220...@web54606.mail.re2.yahoo.com>, on 10/25/2010 at 09:09 PM, Ed Gould said: I know IBM got the vsam catalog right with minimal issues Both the original VSAM catalog and the4 ICF catalog had major issues. And a long and painful ev

Re: Fast way of changing time - CBT File 639

2010-11-08 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 8 Nov 2010 16:27:09 -0600, Mike Schwab wrote: > >What I would like to see, but I doubt it would ever be implemented, >would be like the Leap Second rule. If you need to drop a second, you >skip the last second of June 30 or December 31. If you need to add a >second, you have another secon

Re: Posting URLs (Was: Shutdown and dependencies)

2010-11-08 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In , on 10/20/2010 at 09:40 AM, Paul Gilmartin said: >But some mailers have a compulsion to break lines at less than 80 >characters, >From RFC 5322 2.1.1. Line Length Limits There are two limits that this specification places on the number of characters in a line. Each line of chara

Re: Why are TSO IDs limited to 7 characters

2010-11-08 Thread John McKown
On Mon, 2010-11-08 at 16:35 -0700, Frank Swarbrick wrote: > >>> On 11/8/2010 at 7:19 AM, in message > , > Thomas Berg wrote: > > > > One maybe possible solution would be having a sort of "alias" for the > > longer id's. E g id's constructed as consecutive numbers: #123456. > > And automatically

Re: Why are TSO IDs limited to 7 characters

2010-11-08 Thread Steve Comstock
On 11/8/2010 4:35 PM, Frank Swarbrick wrote: On 11/8/2010 at 7:19 AM, in message , Thomas Berg wrote: One maybe possible solution would be having a sort of "alias" for the longer id's. E g id's constructed as consecutive numbers: #123456. And automatically substitute with the when needed (jo

LPAR only CoD

2010-11-08 Thread R Hey
Hi, My client used to have 2 CEC, 1 for prod, 1 for other LPARs. They used to turn on CoD for prod & all was fine in other LPARs. Now they have moved all LPARs to one Z10. But when CoD is turned on, some 3P SW on non-prod LPAR stop working. Is there a way to, in effect, turn on CoD for 1 LPAR

Re: How to test IATUX61 JES3 exit?

2010-11-08 Thread Manfred Lotz
Hi Norbert On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 2:16 PM, Norbert Friemel wrote: > On Thu, 28 Oct 2010 13:43:52 +0200, Manfred Lotz wrote: > >>Hi there, >>I'd like to test IATUX61 JES3 exit which deals with jobs ending up on >>MDS error queue. I have no idea how to force a job to end up on the >>MDS error queu