Re: AUTOIPL (was Re: Health Check (IBMSVA,SVA_AUTOIPL_DEFINED)

2011-10-04 Thread Jim Mulder
> When you IPL a new operating system via autoipl (does that work?), > is there any gotcha other than to remember to always CLPA? When SADMP starts an IPL of MVS, it is essentially the same as if you did a Load Clear from the HMC. We don't know or care whether it is a new or old operating sy

Re: Scheduling Tasks via JES2 automatic commands

2011-10-04 Thread Brian Westerman
I forgot to mention that SyzAuto/z provides complete 24x7 command and job and task scheduling and we have over 300 site users. Brian -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.

Re: Scheduling Tasks via JES2 automatic commands

2011-10-04 Thread Brian Westerman
You can also use the replacement for the freeware "CBT tape" AUTO called SyzAUTO/z, which has many extra features and also has fixes for some of the freeware product issues (midnight issue, fast processor support (the old one was written for much slower processors in the 1980's),etc.) I maintai

Re: 1TB EAV Support

2011-10-04 Thread Mike Schwab
We have about 11 TB on 18 TB of volumes for 11 LPars. On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 9:12 PM, Shane wrote: > LOL. > I remember going to a Share/Guide presentation years ago by a bod from > one of Australias larger sites. The talk was how they managed their > humongous DASD farm that had recently passed t

Re: 1TB EAV Support

2011-10-04 Thread Shane
LOL. I remember going to a Share/Guide presentation years ago by a bod from one of Australias larger sites. The talk was how they managed their humongous DASD farm that had recently passed the Terabyte frontier. Shock and awe from the assembled crowd :0) Shane ... On Tue, 4 Oct 2011 19:55:

Re: CPU utilization/engine

2011-10-04 Thread Ed Gould
Ted, I normally do not respond but since you were not in the same tone as it usually is, I will say this. I have in the past run into seemingly bright programmers that were convinced that they knew better than MVS in how things should work. We had to fight tooth and nail to stop them. It's ama

Re: Scheduling Tasks via JES2 automatic commands

2011-10-04 Thread Edward Jaffe
On 10/4/2011 7:42 AM, Staller, Allan wrote: You can also check out the AUTO program on CBT file 098. FWIW, that's what we use. Been working great for at least a decade. -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 831 Parkview Drive North El Segundo, CA 90245 310-338-0400 x318 edja...

Re: 1TB EAV Support

2011-10-04 Thread Mike Schwab
That would hold all data for 4 of our LPARS. On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 6:56 PM, Edward Jaffe wrote: > Anyone running this yet? > > We have the necessary PTFs installed on our z/OS systems, but haven't > upgraded the DS8100 hardware yet. > > Looks like fun! 8-) > > -- > Edward E Jaffe > Phoenix Softw

Re: AUTOIPL (was Re: Health Check (IBMSVA,SVA_AUTOIPL_DEFINED)

2011-10-04 Thread Mark Zelden
On Tue, 4 Oct 2011 14:48:15 -0700, Skip Robinson wrote: >When I run the AMDSADMP macro, I use options for zero operator >intervention: > > ...CONSOLE=SYSC,REUSEDS=ALWAYS... > >This puts messages on the HMC operator console (no worry about device >condition) and specifies that the new dump over

1TB EAV Support

2011-10-04 Thread Edward Jaffe
Anyone running this yet? We have the necessary PTFs installed on our z/OS systems, but haven't upgraded the DS8100 hardware yet. Looks like fun! 8-) -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 831 Parkview Drive North El Segundo, CA 90245 310-338-0400 x318 edja...@phoenixsoftware.co

Re: AUTOIPL (was Re: Health Check (IBMSVA,SVA_AUTOIPL_DEFINED)

2011-10-04 Thread Skip Robinson
When I run the AMDSADMP macro, I use options for zero operator intervention: ...CONSOLE=SYSC,REUSEDS=ALWAYS... This puts messages on the HMC operator console (no worry about device condition) and specifies that the new dump overwrites any existing dump without prompting. The title will alw

Re: CPU utilization/engine

2011-10-04 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2011-10-04 18:40, Ed Gould pisze: Radoslaw, What should have been asked is Why. Unless you are writing a performance monitor (again why) there is no likely reason as to why they need to know. There are a lot of people that think they need to know this type of info, especially applica

Re: Scheduling Tasks via JES2 automatic commands

2011-10-04 Thread Dennis Trojak
True. If he corrects it then it will just execute at the time(s) he expected. Bad wording on my part since I was explaining the results he is currently getting with a time earlier than his IPL. Dennis -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On

Re: CPU utilization/engine

2011-10-04 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Besides, it's a capacity metric. Maybe not the best, but a start. - Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca Twitter: @TedMacNEIL -Original Message- From: David Andrews Sender: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2011 14:33:30 To: Reply-To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Subje

Re: Scheduling Tasks via JES2 automatic commands

2011-10-04 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
No, they will not execute immediately, only on the specified time starting the next day. Kees. "Dennis Trojak" wrote in message news:<3d40fdfc24014e459f11e569c730d98e010...@ntexmbapb.corp.radioshack.n et>... > That's because you issued the $TA commands for a time "earlier" than the current time.

Re: CPU utilization/engine

2011-10-04 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
"David Andrews" wrote in message news:<1317753210.14315.21.ca...@chuck.duda.com>... > On Tue, 2011-10-04 at 12:40 -0400, Ed Gould wrote: > > What should have been asked is Why. > > Sorry, "why" is none of our concern. It is sufficient that Miklos wants > to know. > > -- > David Andrews Not en

Re: CPU utilization/engine

2011-10-04 Thread David Andrews
On Tue, 2011-10-04 at 12:40 -0400, Ed Gould wrote: > What should have been asked is Why. Sorry, "why" is none of our concern. It is sufficient that Miklos wants to know. -- David Andrews A. Duda & Sons, Inc. david.andr...@duda.com ---

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2011-10-04 Thread Gregory Pinkowski
Please excuse the bandwidth... 2 renewable 1-year mainframe contracting positions available in LA area (local government). These are positions with a great group of people downstairs from me, and the contracts I would prefer except I can't abandon my current security admin contract to bid on an

Re: Scheduling Tasks via JES2 automatic commands

2011-10-04 Thread Jerry Whitteridge
If you are on a recent release of z/OS you have the cron scheduler in your zUnix . It can do all the scheduling you want WAY more easily than trying the JES2 automatic commands. Jerry Whitteridge Design Engineer Safeway Inc. 925 951 4184 If you feel in control you just aren't going fast enough.

Re: ZDNET actually says something nice about IBM LINUX

2011-10-04 Thread Mark Post
>>> On 10/4/2011 at 03:19 AM, Sheldon Davis wrote: > Hi > > Does anyone have a method of comparing x86 Linux vs IFL Linux? (Performance > and cost) Interesting question coming from someone at Isracard. Mike Shorkend has given a number of presentations at SHARE about Isracard's experiences ru

Re: CMS load module format

2011-10-04 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net (Shmuel Metz , Seymour J.) writes: > Yes, but could you enter macro invocations in the prefix area, or only > predefined line commands? XEDIT had prefix macros and a SET PENDING > command so that a prefix macro could insert macro invocations into the > prefix areas, to

Re: CPU utilization/engine

2011-10-04 Thread Ed Gould
Radoslaw, What should have been asked is Why. Unless you are writing a performance monitor (again why) there is no likely reason as to why they need to know. There are a lot of people that think they need to know this type of info, especially application types who think they should programicall

Re: Scheduling Tasks via JES2 automatic commands

2011-10-04 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 4 Oct 2011 16:17:40 +0200, Howard Evans wrote: >I am trying to schedule a task to be run at 3 specific times of the day, every >day ... > crontab; comes with z/OS; nothing to download or install plus an MGCR interface; RYO. JES2/JES3 agnostic. -- gil ---

Re: CMS load module format

2011-10-04 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net (Shmuel Metz , Seymour J.) writes: > That worked on more than the 3270 family; it also worked on the > console[1] of the 360/168. > > [1] Compatible with nonthing except the consoles of the 360/85 and > 370/165. re: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011m.html#30 CMS loa

Re: CPU utilization/engine

2011-10-04 Thread Miklos Szigetvari
On 10/4/2011 4:57 PM, R.S. wrote: W dniu 2011-10-04 16:06, Miklos Szigetvari pisze: Hi Would like to see the CPU utilization /CPU engine. Any simple way to get this ? IMHO quick and simple way is to use HMC. Hi I would need in a program

Re: DS8000 migration stories?

2011-10-04 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2011-10-04 16:32, Hal Merritt pisze: IMHO, the DS8000 family of machines is awesome. You're gonna love it. The DS8000 family is powerful, and that means that there is a learning curve. Hit IBM or the business partner for conversion services to be included with the price. With the right

Re: CPU utilization/engine

2011-10-04 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2011-10-04 16:06, Miklos Szigetvari pisze: Hi Would like to see the CPU utilization /CPU engine. Any simple way to get this ? IMHO quick and simple way is to use HMC. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- Tre tej wiadomoci moe zawiera informacje prawnie chronione Banku przeznacz

Re: Scheduling Tasks via JES2 automatic commands

2011-10-04 Thread Dennis Trojak
That's because you issued the $TA commands for a time "earlier" than the current time. WAD according to the JES2 Commands manual. Add 24 hours to your T= time and it will execute immediately and then at the scheduled time you expect. /*$ T A0015,T=34.00,I=86400,'$VS,''S SENDSMF''' /*$ T A0016,T=

Re: Scheduling Tasks via JES2 automatic commands

2011-10-04 Thread Mary Anne Matyaz
Another one is Alex, at http://www.sscmainframe.com/freeware.htm Freeware. Doc is at http://www.sscmainframe.com/alexcmds.htm -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu w

Re: Scheduling Tasks via JES2 automatic commands

2011-10-04 Thread Staller, Allan
You can also check out the AUTO program on CBT file 098. Al Staller | Z Systems Programmer | KBM Group | (Tel) 972 664 3565 | allan.stal...@kbmg.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Howard Evans Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2

Re: Scheduling Tasks via JES2 automatic commands

2011-10-04 Thread Staller, Allan
Have you issued '$SA,ALL'? My sequence is: Initialize JES Issue $SA,ALL $TA,,T=TIME(+24 hrs),command. BTW, The commands shown will issue the command *ONE* TIME. You will need to add an I= to repeat the commands. My commands are members of a parmlib and include a step to re-instate the automat

Re: Installing Java 64bit v7.0, v6.0.1 & V6.0.0

2011-10-04 Thread Pete Conlin
Java 7.0 is announced/available today. The Java 64-bit prereq page still in error; correct z/OS 1.11 PTF is UA16880 per Gadi's post. I opened another PMR as apparently Gadi's went nowhere. By the way, is PFT is a new acronym "Per Focum Transitum?" (Forgive my vocabulary, declensions & conjugatio

Re: Scheduling Tasks via JES2 automatic commands

2011-10-04 Thread Bob Shannon
Download Dave Cole's Scheduler from the Cole Software website. It's free and works well. Bob Shannon Rocket Software -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the

Re: Scheduling Tasks via JES2 automatic commands

2011-10-04 Thread Williamson, James R
I use the following to schedule daily commands, etc. ftp://libraries.naspa.com/techsupt/Miller0899.txt Really simple. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Howard Evans Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2011 9:18 AM To: IBM

Re: Scheduling Tasks via JES2 automatic commands

2011-10-04 Thread Pommier, Rex R.
Howard, The way we do this is we just set the items to run at the appointed time once, ie take the I=86400 off the command. Each night at midnight we cancel all the auto commands and then re-establish them. Here is the JCL called "J" that is used to submit the AUTOCMDS member of a private lib

Re: DS8000 migration stories?

2011-10-04 Thread Hal Merritt
IMHO, the DS8000 family of machines is awesome. You're gonna love it. The DS8000 family is powerful, and that means that there is a learning curve. Hit IBM or the business partner for conversion services to be included with the price. With the right tools in experienced hands, the conversion ca

Scheduling Tasks via JES2 automatic commands

2011-10-04 Thread Howard Evans
I am trying to schedule a task to be run at 3 specific times of the day, every day using the JES2 automatic command facility and am not having much luck. I have added the following commands to JES2 startup: /*$ T A0015,T=10.00,I=86400,'$VS,''S SENDSMF''' /*$ T A0016,T=12.00,I=86400,'$VS,''S SENDS

CPU utilization/engine

2011-10-04 Thread Miklos Szigetvari
Hi Would like to see the CPU utilization /CPU engine. Any simple way to get this ? We use currently the RMCT and CCT (RM CPU Management Control Table) to get CPU utilization quickly. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / ar

Re: ZDNET actually says something nice about IBM LINUX

2011-10-04 Thread Staller, Allan
There have been several published studies showing that using a zero-based comparison, the z/Linux solution is cheaper. Check the archives. At least one person has stated this formally and offered his analysis to others. Unfortunately, I have misplaced my copy and can't tell you where the "break ev

Re: DS8000 migration stories?

2011-10-04 Thread Steve Dover
Jan, We migrated from EMC Symmetrix with 8 Escon channels to a DS6800 with 2 Ficon channels. Performance is way better than I expected. And I second the vote for FDRPAS. It worked so well, I was unsure that it actually did anything, but it worked exactly as they advertise. You can control y

Re: ZDNET actually says something nice about IBM LINUX

2011-10-04 Thread Tom Marchant
On Mon, 3 Oct 2011 13:25:19 -0600, Mark Post wrote: >As always, makes me wonder what else they got wrong. Like this: IBM measures use of its mainframe systems in millions of instructions per second (MIPS). -- Tom Marchant -

Re: ZDNET actually says something nice about IBM LINUX

2011-10-04 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <9744671434806595.wa.sdavisisracard.co...@alabamamaps.ua.edu>, on 10/04/2011 at 02:19 AM, Sheldon Davis said: >Does anyone have a method of comparing x86 Linux vs IFL Linux? >(Performance and cost) First define your workload; the results will vary depending on whether you are CPU bound or

Re: ZDNET actually says something nice about IBM LINUX

2011-10-04 Thread Itschak Mugzach
I believe the problem is not with Linux kernel itself, but what you run under... ITschak On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 9:19 AM, Sheldon Davis wrote: > Hi > > Does anyone have a method of comparing x86 Linux vs IFL Linux? (Performance > and cost) > > Thanks > > Sheldon Davis > > ---

Re: CMS load module format

2011-10-04 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In , on 10/02/2011 at 04:20 PM, Anne & Lynn Wheeler said: >what i remember was that in the above "typical screen layout" ... >was that prefix area was standard EDGAR feature Yes, but could you enter macro invocations in the prefix area, or only predefined line commands? XEDIT had prefix macr

Re: OT to my collegues

2011-10-04 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <1317597476.40615.yahoomail...@web65511.mail.ac4.yahoo.com>, on 10/02/2011 at 04:17 PM, Scott Ford said: >Yeah, but I am so cross-platformed, sometimes my old memory cells has >to remember which ..lol Or cross released. Sometimes I try to use a feature that isn't there yet. "Oh, yeah, they

Re: CMS load module format

2011-10-04 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In , on 10/01/2011 at 09:53 PM, Anne & Lynn Wheeler said: >move to vm370/cms and 3270 ... the standard cms editor was updated to >display a fullscreen of the file That worked on more than the 3270 family; it also worked on the console[1] of the 360/168. [1] Compatible with nonthing except th

Re: ZDNET actually says something nice about IBM LINUX

2011-10-04 Thread Sheldon Davis
Hi Does anyone have a method of comparing x86 Linux vs IFL Linux? (Performance and cost) Thanks Sheldon Davis -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the messa