On 5 Aug 2008 07:35:49 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Zelden)
wrote:
http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/IGYLR205/CCONTENTS
Thanks, that is what I was familiar with.
I shared my bookmarks with a newcomer only to discover they didn't
work.
I had some on JCL, some on
On 5 Aug 2008 07:47:26 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Hunkeler Peter , KIUK 3) wrote:
I guess this might be the site you're looking for:
http://www-304.ibm.com/systems/support/storage/software/sort/mvs/profess
or_sort/
That and
On 5 Aug 2008 07:47:41 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Leo Smith) wrote:
I can't comment on the 2nd set of links in your note but regarding the 1st
set of links:
you were using an incredibly old URL that has been redirected for years to
the current
z/OS BookServer. Recently, that redirect has been
On 4 Aug 2008 12:08:38 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Mattson)
wrote:
Basic rule of the universe. Right is a very very small subset of all
possiblities. Wrong is an almost infinite superset consisting of
everything except what is Right. Wherever possible test for right and
reject
On 1 Aug 2008 12:52:01 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Howard Rifkind)
wrote:
Rusty haven't used TSO since 2/2008, please bare with me.
I will stay clothed, thanks.
In my edit screen each time I save my file I'm getting sequence number placed
in colums 73-80. How can I stop this from happening?
On 1 Aug 2008 13:02:41 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ted MacNEIL) wrote:
PROFILES are kept for the lowest qualifier of the datasets.
Try.
UNNUM
PROFILE LOCK
It will still change for each member, but the locked profile will be used for
each new one.
Although you can have different profiles for
On 29 Jul 2008 23:45:46 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Hunkeler Peter , KIUK 3) wrote:
I certainly don't want my out-of-office assistant to auto-reply to
Spam, but mine (Outlook 2003) allows me to select which domains get
this reply.
Interessting. We're on Outlook 2003 here, too, but my OoO agent
On 30 Jul 2008 07:28:10 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Hunkeler Peter , KIUK 3) wrote:
I've been to that menu but I don't see an option that inhibits the
sending of OoO for certain senders. I can delete, move, forward, etc.
the incoming mail but these seem to be the only options I have.
I've been
On 30 Jul 2008 13:08:25 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ken Porowski)
wrote:
Just browsed the messages from Jan 3, 1992 on the death of Grace Murray
Hopper
Wow, that long ago. I guess those of us who have been given a
nanosecond from her are getting rarer.
I wonder if there's a way this listserver could filter these out of
the office messages we keep getting.
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On 29 Jul 2008 06:41:34 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chase, John) wrote:
I wonder if there's a way this listserver could filter these
out of the office messages we keep getting.
Probably not. I've never received one from the listserv itself; they
always come directly from the absentee,
On 29 Jul 2008 07:11:55 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (McKown,
John) wrote:
Most email clients can filter them. Mine can, but apparently only if it
is written in English with specific phrasing.
Most people don't want to filter real messages from co-workers who
turn the out of office assistant on.
On 29 Jul 2008 07:39:14 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ian S.
Worthington) wrote:
Anyone who elects to send the dates of their vacation, along with their phone
number and approximate home location to a public list is letting themselves in
for a lot more pain then just the annoyance of their fellow
On 24 Jul 2008 06:56:40 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William H. Blair)
wrote:
Regardless, it was still an RPQ (no purchase price
listed in the sales manual), and so darn horribly
expensive [at the time] that no shop in its right
mind would even consider doing so (hence my question
about you being
On 21 Jul 2008 11:26:40 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (McKown,
John) wrote:
The durability of the DC-3 saved my a** in Viet Nam three times; I'd
really hate to see anyone bash it. It's old and slow, but it still
works very well.
The same holds true of an awful lot of programs; they're old and
On 17 Jul 2008 08:05:28 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rick Fochtman)
wrote:
This gives me pause. What were the original site selectors thinking ??
Sometimes it isn't what one is thinking - but what one isn't thinking
that matters most.
On 17 Jul 2008 10:21:32 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chase, John) wrote:
Since it's a government entity, it could have been any (combination of)
these, and not necessarily in this order:
1. Cheapest available;
2. Pork-barrel;
3. political favor;
4. political disfavor.
Or It's someone else's
On 3 Jul 2008 09:15:52 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (J R) wrote:
That's the problem, the OP has a third long-running
step that references the same dataset.
Is there any problem in referencing copies of the dataset then?
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On 2 Jul 2008 12:39:29 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Clark Morris)
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Apple has changed processors for its OS.
Twice.But maybe the bigger change is to change their core OS to
Unix.
But by starting clean, they were able to get rid of vulnerabilities by
design instead of by patching.
On 29 Jun 2008 09:54:16 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Shmuel
Metz , Seymour J.) wrote:
what else should be accounted for?
There's really no should; it depends on local policy. What's important
is that management understands and buys into the charge-back scheme.
Also, it is important to be able to
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On 26 Jun 2008 08:43:40 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richards,
Robert B.) wrote:
Some banks were trying to change off of Tandem, but a major banking
software vendor bought an up and coming Linux on System z solution and
essentially killed it in favor of their own, dated technology.
I just want the
On 24 Jun 2008 21:41:28 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve
Comstock) wrote:
What's the driving factor that gives mainframes any
kind of real life expectancy, given that Windows and
xNIX are now up to MF standards?
Evaluate your needs and wants, compare them with the costs involved -
just as you do
On 25 Jun 2008 12:56:09 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rick Fochtman)
wrote:
Nothing will beat the MF in terms of overall performance.
That's like saying nothing will beat a cargo ship or train or 18
wheeler in terms of overall performance.
But the measure of overall performance depends on our
On 25 Jun 2008 12:42:40 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gibney, Dave) wrote:
We now live in a world (z or Wintel or *nix) where downtime does not
have to visibly happen. And customers are permitted to and should insist
on 24/7 service. But the other fact is everyone (well almost) has a
Window$
On 24 Jun 2008 07:06:54 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Wayne Driscoll)
wrote:
In my experience, the UNIX and/or PC development teams were more likely to
have change integration tools, as they had to deal with multiple development
environments, while many mainframe products were developed using ISPF
On 24 Jun 2008 12:55:15 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ed
Philbrook) wrote:
Comparing a subscript that had just changed to its maximum value
before using it in any
other operation would prevent the majority of abends and storage
violations at my current facility.
Of course, in the event
On 22 Jun 2008 04:35:06 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richards,
Robert B.) wrote:
I wouldn't say we are necessarily losing the battle.
It all depends on how such things are measured. Our dominance isn't
as pervasive as it once was, as alternatives have matured. Is that
losing?
On 22 Jun 2008 14:24:35 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gibney, Dave) wrote:
The issue that needs addressing is: Why, when technology has reached our
current level, is ANY customer visible downtime acceptable? Those other
components could, with today's capability, be properly redundant and
On 22 Jun 2008 13:36:13 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas Kern)
wrote:
Not all Federal data centers see any value in dinosaurs, even dinosaurs with
penguins. Neither dinosaur nor penguin is as good as Windows.
Management will suffer to have network infrastructure running under some
form of linux
On 20 Jun 2008 12:57:02 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eric Bielefeld)
wrote:
All right - I'll bite. What is the invite to join the nitwits about?
I didn't recognize this so I marked it as spam.
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On 19 Jun 2008 12:11:34 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Patrick Lyon)
wrote:
(HR has changed our Titles,..but I still like Systems Programmer)
I am fond of the SP title also and use it all the time.
Congrats and best wishes!
I prefer FTG (Full Time Grandpa).
On 16 Jun 2008 06:51:48 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (McKown,
John) wrote:
I am somewhat confused by this as well. But I'll admit that I'm not an
economist. I'm a computer techie. But as more things are done far
away, that reduces the average and median income in the local economy.
Which reduces the
On 17 Jun 2008 09:29:32 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ted MacNEIL) wrote:
Why would anybody want to run in AMODE(24) in this day and age?
As anybody told the programmer to get into the new millenium?
We have some assembly language programs that are called to connect
with cash machines that use
On 17 Jun 2008 12:17:29 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Veilleux, Jon L)
wrote:
Short term it may not be worth it but over the long run it would save a
lot of headaches and money. Mangement has a bad tendency to only see as
far as the next quarter and misses opportunities to resolve longer term
It seems that more and more, systems programmers either find some
old-timer to mentor them or they have to shoehorn themselves into
positions to learn their jobs on their own.
Companies don't want to train them. Same thing with CoBOL or PL/I
programmers.
Actually, this is part of
On 12 Jun 2008 09:05:03 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thompson,
Steve) wrote:
As to the fact of terrorism it will always depend on what kind of
company one will contract. You can always suffer from terrorism from
inside also.
Terrorism is the new word virtually all governments use to label their
On 12 Jun 2008 09:48:12 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard
Peurifoy) wrote:
On the other hand, we used our 3290's and 3174's for better
than 20 years with no problems. We seem to replace PC's about
every 3 years (though that may not be required :-) ).
Certainly it isn't required when they only
On 12 Jun 2008 10:10:27 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Pinnacle)
wrote:
Actually, huge disagreement with this. The OP clearly shows that people
overseas are not as skilled (even more skilled? That's a joke). Cheaper,
sure, but you get what you pay for. Communications of the ACM (CACM) just
had
On 12 Jun 2008 13:17:41 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Edward
Jaffe) wrote:
This is a totally different animal than outsourcing an IT job that can
be performed remotely. In the case of manufacturing, the rising costs of
transportation fuels are already beginning to change things. If
transportation
On 11 Jun 2008 07:15:18 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gerhard
Postpischil) wrote:
what 3270 software do you use to connect to your mainframes?
BlueZone from seagullsoftware.com for serious work (supports
graphics, 3290 partitions, and a few other fancies). Inexpensive
for the provided features
On 11 Jun 2008 08:28:47 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mansell, George
R.) wrote:
Seagull Software acquired by Rocket Software, Bluezone. Goes through a
server providing encryption to the desktop. On Windows active x, other
platforms java.
When we first got it, it only used Active-X. I was very
I use TN3270
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On 10 Jun 2008 07:21:54 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Craddock, Chris)
wrote:
Ok, I am beginning to be a little more intrigued here. How many
mainframe people are actually using MACs out there? Come on, put your
hands up. Do you love it? Hate it? Somewhere in between? Do you use it
at work?
On 10 Jun 2008 07:29:02 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Edward
Jaffe) wrote:
Two of our Los Angeles employees use Mac. There are many compatibility
issues with our systems, servers, and network. So, each of them runs
Windows XP under VirtualPC to compensate. It's a PITA for them. But,
they're Mac
On 10 Jun 2008 07:43:41 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (McKown,
John) wrote:
I'm am a total Linux bigot. However, I will say that the Mac is nice. I
like it to do some of my Web surfing (like watching the Mythbusters
videos on the Web) and all of my A/V work such as listening to MP3s and
watching DVDs.
On 5 Jun 2008 13:26:24 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (George,
William , DHCS-ITSD) wrote:
I have 10 files with the same layout and all must be sorted using the
same sort criteria.
Each file must be sorted into its own separate output file. Is it
possible to put this SORT into one step instead of
On 4 Jun 2008 13:08:05 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chase, John) wrote:
I'm sure there are places in the world where the offered compensation is
more than fair. I do not believe the United States contains one of
those places.
More than fair is unfair. Have you seen what the top executives
make
I'd like to create a compare job that will compare two files.
One file should have the current date (MMDD) in columns 72-79 of a
406 column record, but the other should have a different current date in
the same format.
My user would like to not just ignore these dates, but have
There are alternatives to extinct and still going strong.
The main one is evolving.
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On 27 May 2008 07:28:24 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hal Merritt)
wrote:
Some potential good news is that auditors may be (finally) starting to apply
the same rules to the tinkertoys as the MF.
The security solutions that need to protect data on a stolen laptop
are not the same security solutions
On 27 May 2008 10:07:46 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hal Merritt)
wrote:
Why revolutionary? Because that model appeals to a basic human
assumption that new is better and that model has been -very- successful
in a number of industries. Tried and true simply isn't cool, especially
to the less
It's a pain having to find all of the places to customize F-Key
settings, but from inside editing:
PF1 . . . HELP
PF2 . . . start
PF3 . . . END
PF4 . . . RETURN
PF5 . . . RFIND
PF6 . . . RCHANGE
PF7 . . . UP
PF8 . . . DOWN
On 22 May 2008 07:02:06 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Don Leahy) wrote:
I also have PF4 set to EXPAND. (Which is a recent ISPF command used
for scrollable fields).
I just tried it and got 'EXPAND is not active'.
How is it used?
On 22 May 2008 02:30:37 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Schwarz,
Barry A) wrote:
So a fifty message thread about stupid practical jokes is sufficiently
topical for you but a three message thread about CSI severely degrades
the S/N ratio of the list?
Some of this discussion actually can help us with
On 23 May 2008 07:07:22 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Don Leahy) wrote:
IIRC, EXPAND was introduced in z/OS 1.6 (or 1.7). It only works when
the cursor is on a scrollable field. Scrollable fields are a fairly
new feature, and very uncommon except in products like File Manager
DB2. ISPF option 3.16
On 23 May 2008 07:57:14 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Don Leahy) wrote:
I don't have DB2 (this is an IDMS shop). Can 3.16 edit other types
of tables that we create for export to PCs and such?
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I have the following commands in my FTP:
cd /ftp/SISR/RECREG
delete person
put 'UMSDEV.CONV.QA04.NPRSMED' person
If person does not exist, the FTP aborts, but the new file is out
there anyway.
I'm running IKJEFT01 from within a standard
On 21 May 2008 11:10:12 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (McKown,
John) wrote:
Don't bother with the delete. The put will replace it if it exists
or create it if it does not already exist.
That's not what I observed - I will try again.
On 21 May 2008 12:21:27 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (McKown,
John) wrote:
That's not what I observed - I will try again.
Strange. That has always worked for me. If it doesn't work, please post
the error message. I'm curious.
Hmmm. What I had observed was that the FTP appeared to work, but
that
On 21 May 2008 12:43:34 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Don Leahy) wrote:
The PL had PFK10 set up as CANCEL. This screwed me up because my own
userid had PFK10 set up as SAVE. After losing several rounds of
changes by hitting CANCEL when I meant SAVE, I changed the PL's PFK10
setting to match the one
On 21 May 2008 12:57:59 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jerry Fuchs)
wrote:
'card chads'?
Showing your age!
Whish I had thought of that back when we had them!
Those rectangular chads could hurt someone when they get into one's
eyes.
On 15 May 2008 14:46:55 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Shmuel
Metz , Seymour J.) wrote:
Since I'm not a JAVA expert,
Clearly not, if you believe that JavaScript has anything to do with Java
;-)
The marketing guys knew Java was popular, so the name change worked.
On 15 May 2008 10:09:45 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Craddock, Chris)
wrote:
I loved the comment The least stable part of ESX is usually the
administrator. The code is virtually bomb-proof. That is pretty much
the case with every major piece of technology today. People are the
problem.
8^) (Cars
On 12 May 2008 14:13:07 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert A. Rosenberg)
wrote:
Around 1968 I read a book where this guy had a long hyphenated name
which the computers kept having troubles with. He invented a
bacterium that ate computer tapes for revenge - which made him an
ecological hero
On 13 May 2008 00:33:58 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martin
Packer) wrote:
OLD is about the right word for it... Firefox, at least, has plenty of
control over such things. As with all such things I have to give IE the
benefit of the doubt (as I almost never use it) and assume it had a grip
on it
On 13 May 2008 05:51:06 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas Berg)
wrote:
And in swedish the word slut is the same as end...
You imagibe the problems that we have sometimes... :)
Every language I know has such puns.
Remember when people talked about how Chevy Nova meant won't go?
Sure no va means
On 13 May 2008 08:57:14 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Poil)
wrote:
Give me Assembler and a hand-held uninterpreted card punch any day. Real
programmers don't use/need HLL's!
Assembler? Real programmers don't need assembler!
On 13 May 2008 09:26:02 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tony Harminc)
wrote:
Formatting names according to some assumed standard, e.g. changing the
first letter of each part to upper case. Enough said on this, except
to remark on the sheer number of homegrown and experimental schemes
deployed out
On 11 May 2008 14:26:06 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David
Alcock) wrote:
Ever since the Web came along I've been annoyed by those web
sites that won't accept spaces or dashes like for credit cards
and phone numbers. I know that even ancient mainframe COBOL has
support for removing them with one
On 12 May 2008 08:20:36 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chase, John) wrote:
Don't forget the multi-word surnames, like Van de Graaf, de la Hoya,
etc. I'm sure those folks tire from receiving form-letter
acknowledgements that start with Dear Mr. Van: or Dear Mr. de:.
I'm doing case conversions of
On 12 May 2008 08:21:52 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve
Comstock) wrote:
I once met an instructor in San Francisco whose name was
something_or_other III. He decided the III was the only
part that gave him uniqueness. He had his name legally
changed to '3'. Failed a lot of validation tests on many
On 6 May 2008 13:08:45 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Linda Mooney)
wrote:
We got rid of all of our 800 bpi tapes a long time ago- sometime around 1990 I
think, because the new version of MVS we were installing at the time no
longer supported 800 bpi. Since we had a major customer who required
On 24 Apr 2008 12:18:27 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Patrick
O'Keefe) wrote:
Same problem,with many color schemes. If only the single
found item were highlighted it would be very useful, but with the
screen full highlighted strings, finding the one with the cursor in it
can be much harder than
On 22 Apr 2008 05:21:55 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ivan Warren) wrote:
http://99-bottles-of-beer.net/
Neat, it even includes a language I have in my son's basement - an
Atari cartridge called Action!.
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We just upgraded our OS to ZOS 1.9 and old CoBOL programs fail with the
following error:
000121 008200 COPY ABEND01.
000121== IGYDS0010-S A COPY statement was found but the LIB
compiler option was not in
effect. Scanning was resumed at the item
I also noticed that the SDSF output file order is different.
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On 21 Apr 2008 08:53:27 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Don Leahy) wrote:
Talk to your Endevor folks. They need to add the LIB compiler option
to the processor that you are using.
Or, the systems programmers can tweak the compiler defaults to
override the IBM-delivered default, which is NOLIB.
I am trying to get some small samples of code of various languages for a
trivia quiz in our shop that has IBM ZOS and Sun Unix.It would be
nice to do code that isn't obviously of a language - but the hard part
is making sure it doesn't fit several languages.
I might start off with
On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 18:03:09 -0700, Paul Knudsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Every once in a while someone pulls up a debugger tool, intending on
having that skill in our resume. But when we actually need to debug,
we go back to the old way - displays in the code.
Wasting time good for job
On 16 Apr 2008 07:16:33 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Don Leahy) wrote:
Every once in a while, we have time to waste - pulling up debugger
tools is as good of a way to fill that time as any.
soapbox
If a debugging tool is seen as a waste of time it is usually because
the installation hasn't put
Every once in a while someone pulls up a debugger tool, intending on
having that skill in our resume. But when we actually need to debug,
we go back to the old way - displays in the code.
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On 14 Apr 2008 06:29:28 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (McKown,
John) wrote:
Every once in a while someone pulls up a debugger tool, intending on
having that skill in our resume. But when we actually need to debug,
we go back to the old way - displays in the code.
Hum, I know for a fact that our
On 14 Apr 2008 08:14:24 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Clark
Morris) wrote:
Very definitely, you should at least be checking for 00 and 97.
Depending on the files and any recent compiler changes, other
conditionally successful opens should be checked for.
We had a purchased system that included a
On 14 Apr 2008 11:14:24 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chase, John) wrote:
It's been many years, but ISTR (vaguely) that the 97 occurs at OPEN time
if an _implicit_ VERIFY was done (i.e., OPEN discovered that the
previous opener of the dataset did not close it cleanly, so it invoked
VERIFY under the
I pass by streets tape drive and disk drive next to Storage Tech
near Boulder, CO.
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On 8 Apr 2008 07:18:26 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Logan)
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If you are willing to write an I am done file, you can easily enough do
something like have it download its own JES log somewhere as a last FTP
step. It would write it back to (presumably) the submitting system, and it
would
On 7 Apr 2008 10:17:30 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (McKown,
John) wrote:
Ah, that brings back memories. Programmer insisted that since S0C7 was a
system abend, that meant is was a system problem and we needed to fix
the system! Same programmer, on DOS/VS, would get PROGRAM REQUESTED
TERMINATION
On 3 Apr 2008 12:50:45 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (McKown,
John) wrote:
We don't do this, but I'd look at using email. If you must fax, then
email to a fax server inside your own organization. I figure that I
could put up a Linux/Intel system to do this in a couple of days.
That's our solution as
On 2 Apr 2008 10:23:50 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ted MacNEIL) wrote:
XP is a reliable OS and have a lot of software which MVS does not have and
can not have because MF CPU is needed for regular operation.
Since when is XP reliable?
Mainframers brag about how long a system stays up.
PFCSK's
On 28 Mar 2008 08:17:13 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rick Fochtman)
wrote:
Sounds like commentary I've heard about the U.S. legal system: Truth
and justice are irrelevant, so long as procedure is followed precisely.
-jc-
unsnip---
And the lawyers get
On 28 Mar 2008 09:08:48 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chase, John) wrote:
I think due process is the goal of judicial systems most everywhere.
And people want predictability more than Truth and Justice.
Predictability allows plans to function.Justice might bite us.
Perhaps, to a point. But
On 26 Mar 2008 07:34:32 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ted MacNEIL) wrote:
At a price they were willing to pay, perhaps
Perhaps.
But, the main reason is nobody wanted to live there.
A company has a choice. It can be located where skilled labor is
available and expensive - use external labor -
On 26 Mar 2008 10:22:03 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (R.S.)
wrote:
BTW: COBOL has serious disadvantages.
(and the war began...)
Every tool has serious disadvantages - because no tool is all things
for all people.
It's not about the language though. IS is about the data.We need
to make sure we
On 24 Mar 2008 14:03:15 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gerhard Adam)
wrote:
What's much harder for both data processing and for users is to figure
out how to collect and use data that might give us that competitive
advantage - without spending more than the return.
Agreed. But that's a question
On 24 Mar 2008 16:02:53 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Patrick
O'Keefe) wrote:
That depends on who defines competetive advantage.
In most businesses there must be protection of confidential or
proprietary information.
I've heard ads for a company that provides Sales Leads.
Of course, that
http://blogs.zdnet.com/projectfailures/?p=666
(Not from where I'm standing - but I might not be standing the right
place)
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On 24 Mar 2008 09:27:34 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Bond) wrote:
Predicators of the mainframe demise are probably of the same genre as those
experts (who have probably never opened a science book) who are expounding
the dangers of this global warming nonsense.
Possibly. But those who
On 24 Mar 2008 09:54:44 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chase, John) wrote:
I doubt seriously that the mainframe is going away, ha ha; rather, it
is frequently wearing new clothes in the form of penguin tuxedos and
other non-traditional garb. :-)
But my particular mainframe skills are likely to need
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