ent of New Jersey since 1960
http://www.lsnj.org/PDFs/poverty_report_7-27-00.pdf
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Now, I understand why they move work to China or India...
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On Nov 20, 2007, at 1:09 PM, Eric Chevalier wrote:
On 18 Nov 2007 21:59:37 -0800,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ed Gould) wrote:
Doesn't our elected officials have a clue what is going on?
Of course not. All y'all are too busy sitting here bitching in
IBM-Main instead of pounding on your Congressperso
That's a good point. I've had several good leads from people on IBM-Main.
A couple of good interviews resulted from those leads. Unfortunately, I
still don't have a job. I've even started applying for computer operator
jobs, which I assume would pay maybe half of what I made as a sysprog. An
y, November 20, 2007 1:09 PM
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On 18 Nov 2007 21:59:37 -0800,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ed Gould) wrote:
>Doesn't our elected officials have a clue what is going on?
Of course not. All y'all are too busy sitting here bitch
Yeah, this thread was heading off the deep end.
Back on subject...
What is sad is "my" reading of the posting indicates this position is with IBM
at one of their outsourcing sites. IBM, of all people/companies, should know
what this position is worth.
And while we all speculate on the posting
On 18 Nov 2007 21:59:37 -0800,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ed Gould) wrote:
>Doesn't our elected officials have a clue what is going on?
Of course not. All y'all are too busy sitting here bitching in
IBM-Main instead of pounding on your Congressperson or Senator's door.
Tell me Ed, what's the name of *y
I guess that's close. ;)
My almost 10k per year is based on a two story colonial "valued" at 192, but
would sell for more of course. This year we were supposed to receive our
reassessments and almost everyone would wind up paying more. However, the
housing slump put that on hold for a few mon
> From: "Anton Britz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Have you ever worked/stayed in NEw Jersey ?
> >
> > Because the "Minimum wage" only applies to legal people and how many
> > poeple
> > in New Jersey are legal ?
> >
> > 20% maybe.. ok ... lets settle on 25 %..
> >
> > Note: Spitzer understands the ma
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 11/17/2007
at 07:33 AM, Steve Comstock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>They are
>just fulfilling the legal requirement to advertise the
>positions before hiring foreigners.
ITYM *pretending* to fulfill the legal requirement, which includes paying
prevailing wages.
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Chase, John wrote:
Chicagoland can't be too far behind that. My annual RE taxes are just
shy of $4K on a $180K bungalow in a suburb.
This kind of stuff is easy to look up. No need to waste IBM-MAIN
bandwidth on it.
New Jersey#1
New Hampshire #2
Vermont #3
Connecticut #4
W
> From: "Chase, John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Gary Green
> > At that salary, 25% of my gross income would go to pay the
> > real estate taxes on my house. And I not unusual. As a
> > state, New Jersey has the highest RE taxes in the country.
>
Anton,
You're saying 75% to 80% of the people in New Jersey are illegal? I take it
that means illegal immigrants. I find that very hard to believe. Do you
have any studies or data to back that up?
Eric Bielefeld
Sr. z/OS Systems Programmer
Milwaukee, Wisconsin
414-475-7434
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> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Gary Green
>
> New Jersey minimum wage is $7.15, yes. Buit can one pay
> their real estate taxes? Wait, on that salary, one cannot
> afford to own a home.
>
> At that salary, 25% of my gross income would go to pay
Gary Green wrote:
New Jersey minimum wage is $7.15, yes. Buit can one pay their real estate
taxes? Wait, on that salary, one cannot afford to own a home.
Correct. Minimum wage earners are expected to rent.
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Edward E Jaffe
Phoenix Software International, Inc
5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 8
New Jersey minimum wage is $7.15, yes. Buit can one pay their real estate
taxes? Wait, on that salary, one cannot afford to own a home.
At that salary, 25% of my gross income would go to pay the real estate taxes on
my house. And I not unusual. As a state, New Jersey has the highest RE taxes
It's a smidgeon over twice what a person working at McDonalds makes in certain
areas. Even the local supermarket is paying shelf-stockers $9.65 an hour to
stock grocery shelves.
Lessee...
I am responsible for total client satisfaction
I am the last line of defense for computer problem/progra
Spitzer is the governor of New York, and he has absolutely no clue as
to how to play nice in a sandbox. Nor does he have a clue about much
else unless you are a Wall Street mogul he can bully.
Doug
At 11:57 AM 11/20/2007, you wrote:
Hi,
Have you ever worked/stayed in NEw Jersey ?
Because t
> From: Aaron Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> Estimated median household income in 2005: $134,600 (it was
> $123,022 in 2000)
>
> Woodcliff Lake $134,600
> New Jersey: $61,672
>
>
> Estimated median house/condo value in 2005: $839,300 (it was
> $450,700 in 2000)
> Woodcliff Lake $839,
Hi,
Have you ever worked/stayed in NEw Jersey ?
Because the "Minimum wage" only applies to legal people and how many poeple
in New Jersey are legal ?
20% maybe.. ok ... lets settle on 25 %..
Note: Spitzer understands the magnitude of the problem but the rest of the
country has no idea what's
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>Chase, John wrote:
>>> -Or
Mark Jacobs wrote:
It's starvation wages. 20*40*52 = 41,600.
Insulting for an IT professional? Yes! A scam to ensure no actual US
takers? Almost certainly! Starvation wages? No!
Minimum wage in New Jersey is $7.15/hr.
http://lwd.dol.state.nj.us/labor/wagehour/lawregs/wage_and_hour_laws.
Tuesday, November 20, 2007 10:30 AM
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Chase, John wrote:
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>> BS/BA Degree from an accredited unive
Chase, John wrote:
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>> BS/BA Degree from an accredited university/college or
>> equivalent experience 2 years in a support environment
>> Perform Problem Determination/Prob Source Ident Perf
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> [ snip ]
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> equivalent experience 2 years in a support environment
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> Problem Mgmt Use R
On 18 Nov 2007 13:54:47 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ted MacNEIL) wrote:
>>Now it's 2007 and I'd do it all again, if need be.
>
>I would, too.
>As long as it's greater than unemployment insurance.
But not if it required moving to a place where my future opportunities
are weak.Moving is expensive
On Nov 19, 2007, at 1:24 AM, R.S. wrote:
Graeme Gibson wrote:
[...]
How true that is. My main point was that advertising such as the
example quoted by the OP is just part of the legal procedural
requirement that an employer in the US must go through in order to
qualify for the H-1B visa t
Well, with the dollar stooping so low... Not even the sysprogs in India
would be interested...
Herbie
Elavon Financial Services Limited
Registered in Ireland: Number 418442
Registered Office: Block E, 1st Floor, Cherrywood Business Park, Loughlinstown,
Co. Dublin, Ireland
Directors: Robert Abele
Graeme Gibson wrote:
[...]
How true that is. My main point was that advertising such as the
example quoted by the OP is just part of the legal procedural
requirement that an employer in the US must go through in order to
qualify for the H-1B visa that then allows them to bring in an o/seas
wo
Correction:
"..There are some 100,000 foreign workers in Australia under our "457
Visa" system,.."
(not 300,000 as I originally said)
Regards to all,
Graeme.
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On Nov 18, 2007, at 11:14 PM, Graeme Gibson wrote:
Yeah, this post got a bit longer than I'd planned.. answering three
posts here.
(one correction: in my previous post I said HB1 when I meant H-1B)
Shane wrote..
It should be noted that things are no better for independents here in
the Antip
Yeah, this post got a bit longer than I'd planned.. answering three posts here.
(one correction: in my previous post I said HB1 when I meant H-1B)
Shane wrote..
It should be noted that things are no better for independents here in
the Antipodes.
I'm sure all of us (world-wide) have mates in dir
On Nov 18, 2007, at 7:06 PM, Bill Johnson wrote:
Last year, our company performed a salary survey in our market near
Cleveland. When the results came back, the salary ranges were
drastically altered downward by about 15K for systems programmers.
Of course all of us balked at the idea that w
ot;Anthony Saul Babonas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Are any of us this desperate?
I have been that desperate and I would apply for this job. What they are
offering is greater than zero.
In 1991 I applied for and was accepted for such a position. The foreign
aspect that others
>Now it's 2007 and I'd do it all again, if need be.
I would, too.
As long as it's greater than unemployment insurance.
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On Nov 18, 2007, at 2:46 AM, Shane wrote:
SNIP--
>
> This business is going to hell ...
>
> Shane ...
>
Shane,
I
On Nov 18, 2007, at 2:46 AM, Shane wrote:
SNIP--
This business is going to hell ...
Shane ...
Shane,
I did not notice it thanks for pointing it out. Is that salary even
close down under?
Ed
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they need to up that salary by at least a factor of 3.
they are out of their minds.
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On Sun, 2007-11-18 at 15:18 +1100, Graeme Gibson wrote:
Plenty - note the .au web address.
Hopefully you yanks will take some notice.
It should be noted that things are no better for independents here in
the Antipodes.
I'm sure all of us (world-wide) have mates in dire straights.
This business i
.. repeating part of a post from back in July '07,:
*
** Follow the link and watch the video **
*
Sounds like a way to "prove" there is no one to fill technical jobs in
America so they NEED to either send the job ov
Ya know... This is NOT the first time that I failed to think of that. :(
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This posting found its way to my inbox. I thought the rate was a mistake,
like they just put something into the field, so I sent an email asking about
the rate. "I" was mistaken. The rate is real. Oh yes, I read these as a
Systems Programming gigs, which was kinda confirmed in the reply email I
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