Re: Article on multi-code processors - does it apply to z196?

2010-10-01 Thread Shane
That article is merely a popularist comment on the original paper. 'nuff said. A quick read of the original paper shows it to be both current (2.6.35-rc3 kernel - for which they also developed some fixes) and thorough. To some extent it was artificial in that they constructed the tests to do no

Re: Article on multi-code processors - does it apply to z196?

2010-10-01 Thread Meral Temel (Garanti Teknoloji)
Colleague who are interested in this subject may want to check the following latest R D Journal Issue by IBM Research And Development Regards Meral http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpl/tocresult.jsp?isnumber=5571943 Commercial Software for Multicore Systems Commercial Software for Multicore

Re: Article on multi-code processors - does it apply to z196?

2010-10-01 Thread McKown, John
I think those are not a single CEC, but multiple independent CECs perhaps more like a Parallel Sysplex in z/OS terms. From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Tom Marchant [m42tom-ibmm...@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, September

Article on multi-code processors - does it apply to z196?

2010-09-30 Thread McKown, John
http://www.conceivablytech.com/3166/science-research/current-operating-systems-may-only-make-sense-up-to-48-cores/ Of course, the article is all about Intel and Linux. But I wonder if similar problems could occur on the 80 CP z196. If not, that would be a boon argument to replace largely

Re: Article on multi-code processors - does it apply to z196?

2010-09-30 Thread Finley, Frank
It reminds me of an xkcd http://xkcd.com/619/ I don't think it will be a real selling point, when you are comparing similar class machines. Kernel modifications have been done to address this on specific Linux systems. However if you were to use it as a pointer to why this class of machine

Re: Article on multi-code processors - does it apply to z196?

2010-09-30 Thread Tom Marchant
On Thu, 30 Sep 2010 12:01:33 -0500, McKown, John wrote: http://www.conceivablytech.com/3166/science-research/current-operating-systems-may-only-make-sense-up-to-48-cores/ Of course, the article is all about Intel and Linux. What about the massively parallel systems running Linux using hundreds

Re: Article on multi-code processors - does it apply to z196?

2010-09-30 Thread Harry Wahl
John, Take a look at Microsoft's Midori Operating System initiative. Also, Amdahl's Law in the multicore era. Harry Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 12:01:33 -0500 From: john.mck...@healthmarkets.com Subject: Article on multi-code processors - does it apply to z196? To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu

Re: Article on multi-code processors - does it apply to z196?

2010-09-30 Thread Scott Rowe
Tom, Most of those are actually clusters of nodes with only a few cores, with each node having it's own memory and OS instance. So, it's not one computer with thousands of CPUs, but a network of thousands of computers, each having 2-8 CPUs. On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 1:29 PM, Tom Marchant