Re: Data Set Name "Hiding" - why?

2006-02-24 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 23 Feb 2006 14:13:29 -0800, Edward E. Jaffe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Mark Zelden wrote: >> You can't expect to have a separate LPAR for every small client >> in all service-bureau environments. Too expensive, too much overhead. >> > >That's why "God" invented VM. > That still would no

Re: Data Set Name "Hiding" - why?

2006-02-23 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>You can't expect to have a separate LPAR for every small client in all service-bureau environments. Too expensive, too much overhead. I disagree. Especially, with the unnatural acts you guys have to perform due to SOX. We never set up multiple customers on the same LPAR at IGS, Canada. Our Canad

Re: Data Set Name "Hiding" - why?

2006-02-23 Thread Edward E. Jaffe
Mark Zelden wrote: You can't expect to have a separate LPAR for every small client in all service-bureau environments. Too expensive, too much overhead. That's why "God" invented VM. -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 Los Angeles, CA 90045

Re: Data Set Name "Hiding" - why?

2006-02-23 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 23 Feb 2006 00:00:00 GMT, Ted MacNEIL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> In other cases, it may be a real confidentiality concern. For example, >> in a service-bureau setting, data set names may contain customer names >> or acronyms. > >That does not make sense at all! >It's not best practice

Re: Data Set Name "Hiding" - why?

2006-02-23 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>> In other cases, it may be a real confidentiality concern. For example, > in a service-bureau setting, data set names may contain customer names > or acronyms. That does not make sense at all! It's not best practice to have different customers on the same LPAR, or sharing the same UCATs! So

Re: Data Set Name "Hiding" - why?

2006-02-23 Thread Jon Brock
One fellow who worked here many moons ago had a file named something along the lines of "SYSXXX.AUDITORS.PLEASE.DONT.LOOK." I think it was just a backup of something else he was working with, but it was still amusing. Jon Fortunately, naming MVS datasets is so ugly, that very little inform

Re: Data Set Name "Hiding" - why?

2006-02-23 Thread Edward E. Jaffe
Gilbert Saint-Flour wrote: On Thursday 23 February 2006 10:24, Edward E. Jaffe wrote: Just curious. How much of an exposure exists if a user knows the name of a data set [s]he can't open? In certain environments, it may just be "security through obscurity". In other cases, it may be

Re: Data Set Name "Hiding" - why?

2006-02-23 Thread R.S.
Gilbert Saint-Flour wrote: On Thursday 23 February 2006 10:24, Edward E. Jaffe wrote: Just curious. How much of an exposure exists if a user knows the name of a data set [s]he can't open? In certain environments, it may just be "security through obscurity". In other cases, it may be a re

Re: Data Set Name "Hiding" - why?

2006-02-23 Thread Gilbert Saint-Flour
On Thursday 23 February 2006 10:24, Edward E. Jaffe wrote: > Just curious. How much of an exposure exists if a user knows > the name of a data set [s]he can't open? In certain environments, it may just be "security through obscurity". In other cases, it may be a real confidentiality concern. F