On Thu, 18 Sep 2008 08:29:05 -0500, Mark Zelden
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>I prefer DDDEFs + VOLSER.
Amen. SSA + DSN alias = Catalog Clutter. Plus, to maintain it permanently, if
you reallocate a TLIB, then recreate the DSN alias. Yuck. Don't like it for
SMP/E. If only it were easi
On Thu, 18 Sep 2008 08:19:18 -0500, Arthur Gutowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In that context, don't SSA and MLA provide two paths to the same
>destination?
Perhaps, but it only works if you follow a specific naming standard set up
for your environment (see your example). It is more of a pe
On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 09:56:56 -0400, John Eells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>SSAs *are* conventional aliases. (I have often wished I could set back
>the clock and pick a different name for SSAs.)
A mis-association on my part. I was "introduced" to SSA's in Server(System)
Pac as a two-part "archit
Thanks, I do remember that now you have jogged my memory.
Jim McAlpine
On 9/17/08, Tom Marchant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 10:09:52 -0500, Mark Zelden wrote:
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> >On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 15:17:51 +0100, Jim McAlpine wrote:
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> >>Did it ever get explained why "DEFINE PAGESP
On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 10:09:52 -0500, Mark Zelden wrote:
>On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 15:17:51 +0100, Jim McAlpine wrote:
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>>Did it ever get explained why "DEFINE PAGESPACE CATALOG" doesn't work. If
>>so I've forgotten the answer in the mists of time.
>>
>
>Since you can only do it using the standard cat
On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 15:17:51 +0100, Jim McAlpine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>Did it ever get explained why "DEFINE PAGESPACE CATALOG" doesn't work. If
>so I've forgotten the answer in the mists of time.
>
Since you can only do it using the standard catalog search order, specifying
a specific c
On 9/17/08, Mark Zelden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 08:23:22 -0500, Arthur Gutowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
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> There is indeed special code for pagespace and SYS1 as John said. But
> there is no reason for the "trick" or SSA with anything but DEFINE
> PAGESPACE.
> DEFI
On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 08:23:22 -0500, Arthur Gutowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Define catalog with recatalog may work, depending on your release.
>Personally, I'm still not comfortable with any VSAM, regardless of the
>application, being cataloged in multiple catalogs.
>
It does report an error
Arthur Gutowski wrote:
SSA (system-specific alias) works, but I never liked SSA - too much clutter in
the catalogs.
As Tom Marchant pointed out - conventional alias works, too. Standard
catalog search order prevails, and the pagespace will be defined in the
appropriate catalog.
SSAs *are
Define catalog with recatalog may work, depending on your release.
Personally, I'm still not comfortable with any VSAM, regardless of the
application, being cataloged in multiple catalogs.
SSA (system-specific alias) works, but I never liked SSA - too much clutter in
the catalogs.
As Tom Marc
I'm sorry. I looked at the book again, and the example in the book is the same
as the JCL I got from your web site. I have to wait till tomorrow to get my
alias defined to RACF.
Eric
Mark Zelden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, 16 Sep 2008 13:33:14 -0500, Eric Bielefeld
> In what
Sorry, I stand corrected. I tested it and it does work with RECATALOG as the
manual states.
Mark
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Interesting. The z/OS V1R9.0 DFSMS AMS for Catalogs manual states:
"The CATALOG parameter is allowed on the DEFINE PAGESPACE command only
when the RECATALOG keyword is also coded."
Neal Scheffler
Mark Zelden wrote:
On Tue, 16 Sep 2008 15:35:53 -0400, Jack Kelly
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Tue, 16 Sep 2008 15:35:53 -0400, Jack Kelly
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>DEF PAGESPACE(NAME(PAGE.SY2.PLPA) -
> RECATALOG FILE(VOLSER) VOLUME(VOLSER)) -
> CAT(MCAT.SY2)
>
>
>John,
>I'm glad that it worked for you and maybe the original submitter too.
>Since 1.7, it hasn't worked for me so I do
DEF PAGESPACE(NAME(PAGE.SY2.PLPA) -
RECATALOG FILE(VOLSER) VOLUME(VOLSER)) -
CAT(MCAT.SY2)
John,
I'm glad that it worked for you and maybe the original submitter too.
Since 1.7, it hasn't worked for me so I do the SSA and that seems to work
well. I think that the last problem that I had usin
On Tue, 16 Sep 2008 15:06:28 -0400, Jack Kelly
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>As Mark indicated, the only way to put a page dsn on a different system,
>since the loss of stepcat, is to use a SSA to define it then rename it
>(can't remember if a rename is need, ie the name in the other system
>
In what way are they different? I use an SSA which is required when
defining to a target catalog. I haven't looked at the manual in years
for doing this, but I thought it showed how to do it with an SSA.
As Mark indicated, the only way to put a page dsn on a different system,
since the loss
On Tue, 16 Sep 2008 13:33:14 -0500, Eric Bielefeld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>Thanks Mark. I downloaded your job for 1.7 to 1.9. I see your defining of
page datasets is quite a bit different than in the book. If I have any
problems, I'll post it to the list.
>
In what way are they different?
-
I am trying to create a One Pack system, and I'm having a hard time defining the Page datasets. This was very simple when I could use a STEPCAT dd, but since I'm on z/OS 1.7, I can't.
I followed an example in the book "Access
Thanks Mark. I downloaded your job for 1.7 to 1.9. I see your defining of
page datasets is quite a bit different than in the book. If I have any
problems, I'll post it to the list.
Eric
Mark Zelden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Check out the various ONEPAK* or TWOPAK* samples in the
On Tue, 16 Sep 2008 12:06:20 -0500, Eric Bielefeld wrote:
> DEF ALIAS (NAME(ONEPACK) RELATE(CATALOG.FLCRES.MSTRCAT))
>IDC0001I FUNCTION COMPLETED, HIGHEST CONDITION CODE WAS 0
>
> DEF PAGESPACE (NAME(ONEPACK.FLCRES.LPA) VOL(FLCRES) FILE(DISK) -
> CYLINDERS(1) UNIQUE)
On Tue, 16 Sep 2008 12:06:20 -0500, Eric Bielefeld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
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>Does anyone have any examples of defining a new master catalog for a one
pack system, and then defining page spaces in that catalog. I downloaded 4
files from the CBT site, and all of them still use STEPCAT.
>
Eric
I am trying to create a One Pack system, and I'm having a hard time defining
the Page datasets. This was very simple when I could use a STEPCAT dd, but
since I'm on z/OS 1.7, I can't.
I followed an example in the book "Access Method Services for Catalogs". It
had me define an alias in the m
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