Re: Endevor(Change Management Software)

2012-03-23 Thread Greg Kelly
On Behalf of Rose Sakach (CA Technologies, Sr. Product Manager) Systems Programmers tasks and responsibilities vary from site to site. Responsibilities can range from Installation, upgrade, and maintenance of products to providing utilities for applications (both z/OS and business) and adminis

Re: Endevor(Change Management Software)

2012-03-15 Thread Lim Ming Liang
On 16-Mar-12 12:03 AM, gsg wrote: Just want to thank everyone for your comments. I think the consensus is to not use Endevor for system type changes. I realize this would cause a lot of pain and reduce productivity. My next questions is how does your shop handle making system changes or upg

Re: Endevor(Change Management Software)

2012-03-15 Thread Ed Gould
John: I would further qualify your statement about OEM's to something like this: Some OEMs know about SMPE and some use it as to its design point others use it as a "selling" point and do not embrace SMPE at all. Ed On Mar 15, 2012, at 12:38 PM, John Gilmore wrote: There is a long traditi

Re: Endevor(Change Management Software)

2012-03-15 Thread John Gilmore
There is a long tradition among sysprogs of what is done and not done, and what is done is done within the framework of SMP. There are some few exceptions, but most ISVs use SMP too. John Gilmore, Ashland, MA 01721 - USA -- For

Re: Endevor(Change Management Software)

2012-03-15 Thread gsg
Just want to thank everyone for your comments. I think the consensus is to not use Endevor for system type changes. I realize this would cause a lot of pain and reduce productivity. My next questions is how does your shop handle making system changes or upgrading 3rd party products? Do your

Re: Endevor(Change Management Software)

2012-03-15 Thread Bobbie Justice
Used Endeavor - Yes System Libraries under Endeavor - no, I'm not into that much pain. Bobbie Jo Justice >Is anyone out there using CA-Endevor? Do you manage your system changes using >Endevor? If so, how are you doing this and was >it hard to setup? > >We are looking into this, but there

Re: Endevor(Change Management Software)

2012-03-15 Thread Lizette Koehler
> > Is anyone out there using CA-Endevor? Do you manage your system changes using > Endevor? If so, how are you doing this and was it hard to setup? > > We are looking into this, but there are so many system libraries that could be changed, > it needs a lot of thought to get it right. > > Than

Re: Endevor(Change Management Software)

2012-03-15 Thread Robert S. Hansel (RSH)
n.com/in/roberthansel www.rshconsulting.com -Original Message- Date:Wed, 14 Mar 2012 12:29:05 -0500 From:gsg Subject: Endevor(Change Management Software) Is anyone out there using CA-Endevor? Do you manage your system changes using Endevor? If so, how are you doing this and w

Re: Endevor(Change Management Software)

2012-03-14 Thread Anthony Thompson
ter understanding of what they are asking for. It's too big a hammer for the job really. Ant. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Lim Ming Liang Sent: Thursday, 15 March 2012 12:40 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re

Re: Endevor(Change Management Software)

2012-03-14 Thread Lim Ming Liang
On 15-Mar-12 1:29 AM, gsg wrote: Is anyone out there using CA-Endevor? Do you manage your system changes using Endevor? If so, how are you doing this and was it hard to setup? We are looking into this, but there are so many system libraries that could be changed, it needs a lot of thought to

Re: Endevor(Change Management Software)

2012-03-14 Thread Gibney, Dave
Washington State University > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On > Behalf Of gsg > Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 10:29 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Subject: Endevor(Change Management Software) > > Is anyone out the

Re: Endevor(Change Management Software)

2012-03-14 Thread van der Grijn, Bart (B)
Endevor: Yes System changes through Endevor: No Bart -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of gsg Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 1:29 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Endevor(Change Management Software) Is anyone out there

Re: Endevor(Change Management Software)

2012-03-14 Thread Mueller, David
-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Endevor(Change Management Software) Is anyone out there using CA-Endevor? Do you manage your system changes using Endevor? If so, how are you doing this and was it hard to setup? We are looking into this, but there are so many system libraries that could be changed, it

Re: Endevor(Change Management Software)

2012-03-14 Thread Mitch
h McCluhan, Legacy Modernization Consultant -Original Message- From: gsg To: IBM-MAIN Sent: Wed, Mar 14, 2012 10:31 am Subject: Endevor(Change Management Software) Is anyone out there using CA-Endevor? Do you manage your system changes using ndevor? If so, how are you doing this and w

Endevor(Change Management Software)

2012-03-14 Thread gsg
Is anyone out there using CA-Endevor? Do you manage your system changes using Endevor? If so, how are you doing this and was it hard to setup? We are looking into this, but there are so many system libraries that could be changed, it needs a lot of thought to get it right. Thanks ---