I have nothing but respect for UCC1. It was my path from application programming to systems programming. Most of the applications folks I worked with have either retired or been replaced with offshore programmers. I have no complaints!
Jon L. Veilleux [EMAIL PROTECTED] (860) 636-2683 -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Schmidt Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 1:05 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: FW: Non-SMP/e packaging Exactly right. Back in the good old days when real sysprogs were cowboys and COBOL programmers ran away, scared (and scarred). *smirk* -- Tom Schmidt Madison, WI On Tue, 12 Sep 2006 12:50:56 -0400, Veilleux, Jon L wrote: >You are thinking back to the days when UCC1 zapped IBM O/C/EOV modules >instead of using SVCs and exit points to install their code. With zaps >you MUST have the correct level of IBM code so pre-req entries were >required. > ...which followed what I wrote: > >My experience must predate Tom's - I certainly do remember UCC-1 >maintenance PRE-ing IBM PTFs (for Open/Close/EOV/etc.). However, that >was a long, long, long time ago and Russell's current methods might well >no longer need that. I do not, for example, recall having PTF issues >with CA- >1 in the slightly more recent past. And I am not now a CA-1 customer so >I >(a) can't say and (b) don't have a vote. > >But if Russell believes he can ship working code with or without SMP/E, >I believe him. > >My present work location has contract requirements that ALL software >must be installed via SMP/E (if SMP/E is at all an option). Software >that is not available via SMP/E is generally not allowed here. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html ----------------------------------------- This e-mail may contain confidential or privileged information. If you think you have received this e-mail in error, please advise the sender by reply e-mail and then delete this e-mail immediately. Thank you. Aetna ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html