I have nothing but respect for UCC1. It was my path from application
programming to systems programming. Most of the applications folks I
worked with have either retired or been replaced with offshore
programmers. 
I have no complaints!

Jon L. Veilleux
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(860) 636-2683 


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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
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Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 1:05 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: FW: Non-SMP/e packaging

Exactly right.  Back in the good old days when real sysprogs were
cowboys and COBOL programmers ran away, scared (and scarred).  

*smirk*

--
Tom Schmidt
Madison, WI 


On Tue, 12 Sep 2006 12:50:56 -0400, Veilleux, Jon L wrote:

>You are thinking back to the days when UCC1 zapped IBM O/C/EOV modules
>instead of using SVCs and exit points to install their code. With zaps
>you MUST have the correct level of IBM code so pre-req entries were
>required.
>
 ...which followed what I wrote:  
>
>My experience must predate Tom's - I certainly do remember UCC-1
>maintenance PRE-ing IBM PTFs (for Open/Close/EOV/etc.).  However, that
>was a long, long, long time ago and Russell's current methods might
well
>no longer need that.  I do not, for example, recall having PTF issues
>with CA-
>1 in the slightly more recent past.  And I am not now a CA-1 customer
so
>I
>(a) can't say and (b) don't have a vote.
>
>But if Russell believes he can ship working code with or without SMP/E,
>I believe him.
>
>My present work location has contract requirements that ALL software
>must be installed via SMP/E (if SMP/E is at all an option).  Software
>that is not available via SMP/E is generally not allowed here.

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