In
,
on 04/29/2011
at 09:14 AM, Wayne Driscoll said:
>The setfacl command is supported on most "recent" linux distributions
>with SELinux disabled.
Thanks. I saw a reference to the provenance of ACL's in Linux after I
posted my message. Apparently it goes all the way back to POSIX.
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uot;Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)"
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In ,
on 04/25/2011
at 01:46 PM, "McKown, John" said:
>I may have misunderstood. I do fi
In ,
on 04/25/2011
at 01:46 PM, "McKown, John" said:
>I may have misunderstood. I do find it confusing. But ACLs (Access
>Control Lists) work even if you don't have SELinux working. I use
>them all the time on Linux.
I believe that you'll find that you have SELinux installed.
I believe that
In , on 04/13/2011
at 05:02 PM, Mike Schwab said:
>While a Student at Illinois State University in Normal, I was told
>they had some program hogging the 3270 terminals saying it was the
>Cookie Monster and when someone typed in Cookie it shut down.
AFAIK the cookie monster was first implement
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> [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
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In <939527.18083...@web65513.mail.ac4.yahoo.com>, on 04/13/2011
at 02:11 PM, Scott Ford said:
>How many MF hackers (sic) or viruses have you seen,
Several[1]. I was one[2].
>I have been at it 40yrs, never one
You've never seen a printed report of one, or just never seen one in
action? The
In ,
on 04/13/2011
at 03:18 PM, "McKown, John" said:
>Try running Linux with the SELinux enhancements fully implemented.
>That makes Linux very difficult (to me) to break. SELinux implements
>MAC controls instead of DAC controls.
?
The last I heard it added access control lists as a suppleme
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Lionel Teed
>
> ...from the tinker toy farm to the citadel. love that statement.
>
> I seem to recall a simliar saying from a while back along the lines
of...
>
> PC Users drive sports Cars, Mainframe users drive
...from the tinker toy farm to the citadel. love that statement.
I seem to recall a simliar saying from a while back along the lines of...
PC Users drive sports Cars, Mainframe users drive a freight train!
Convey's nicely the difference!
Lionel
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>
>
--
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>
> > Perhaps network/PC people simply can't conceive of a server being
that secure/robust. Indeed, I know
> of a networ
would be a bit tougher I would think, plus a pre-req would be
> enough
> knowledge to get in and be able to execute, plus passwords and ids...A lot of
> research and work ...just to hack a MF
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011f.html#23 Fear the Internet, was Cool Things
>they had some program hogging the 3270 terminals saying it was the Cookie
>Monster and when someone typed in Cookie it shut down.
>Guessing some sort of prank program.
I was told, in University by masters grad who co-op'd as a MULTICS developer,
that it was a security penetration process that w
was Cool Things You Can Do in z/OS
scott_j_f...@yahoo.com (Scott Ford) writes:
>
> ??? whats it XMASCARD
recent post
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#9
mentions:
there was xmas exec on bitnet in nov87 ... vmshare archive
http://vm.marist.edu/~vmshare/browse?fn=CHRISTMA&am
scott_j_f...@yahoo.com (Scott Ford) writes:
>
> ??? whats it XMASCARD
recent post
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011b.html#9
mentions:
there was xmas exec on bitnet in nov87 ... vmshare archive
http://vm.marist.edu/~vmshare/browse?fn=CHRISTMA&ft=PROB
and was almost exactly a year bef
Washington State University
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On
> Behalf Of Mike Schwab
> Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 3:02 PM
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> Subject: Re: Fear the Internet, was Cool Things You Can Do i
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 4:18 PM, Scott Ford wrote:
>
> ??? whats it XMASCARD
>
> Scott J Ford
>
http://forums.vindy.com/read.php?1,489019,page=3
While a Student at Illinois State University in Normal, I was told
they had some program hogging the 3270 terminals saying it was the
Cooki
I meant wsa.exe
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 2:43 PM, Dick Bond wrote:
> We can connect to IBM and other known Internet websites just fine from our
> mainframes but some of our Intranet(s) are prohibited, like the one my PC is
> on. We also are not allowed remote access to our HMC(s). I can't vouc
We can connect to IBM and other known Internet websites just fine from our
mainframes but some of our Intranet(s) are prohibited, like the one my PC is
on. We also are not allowed remote access to our HMC(s). I can't vouch
for our network people, I was just stating what they apparently consider
half Of Anne & Lynn Wheeler
> Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 4:45 PM
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> Subject: Re: Fear the Internet, was Cool Things You Can Do in z/OS
>
> mike.a.sch...@gmail.com (Mike Schwab) writes:
> > Writing the SE Linux was done with a National Securit
??? whats it XMASCARD
Scott J Ford
From: Ian S. Worthington
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Sent: Wed, April 13, 2011 5:16:07 PM
Subject: Re: Fear the Internet, was Cool Things You Can Do in z/OS
XMASCARD EXEC
i
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XMASCARD EXEC
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Received: 04:12 PM COT, 04/13/2011
From: Scott Ford
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: Fear the Internet, was Cool Things You Can Do in z/OS
> Ok guys, let me ask one question, btw I also working in Security
now,ACF2,RACF
> and TSS. Ho
who dont even know their
own evnviroments.
Scott J Ford
From: Rick Fochtman
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Sent: Wed, April 13, 2011 3:58:15 PM
Subject: Re: Fear the Internet, was Cool Things You Can Do in z/OS
mike.a.sch...@gmail.com (Mike Schwab) writes:
> Writing the SE Linux was done with a National Security Agency (No Such
> Agency) (NSA) research grant.
> http://www.nsa.gov/research/selinux/
also from long ago and far away:
http://www.nsa.gov/research/selinux/list-archive/0409/8362.shtm
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>
&g
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 3:18 PM, McKown, John
wrote:
>
> Try running Linux with the SELinux enhancements fully implemented. That makes
> Linux very difficult (to me) to break. SELinux implements MAC controls
> instead of DAC controls. And it can even make it impossible for "root" to
> modify so
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> Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 2:58 PM
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> Hal, yo
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Perhaps network/PC people simply can't conceive of a server being that secure/robust. Indeed, I know of a network guy who firmly believes that the MF would fail if presented with enough network traffic.
To be fai
ion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of
Scott Ford
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..snip
The issue you are speaking of, I dont get why ppl are afraid. I assume viruses,
but I hav
Behalf Of Gibney, Dave
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>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On
> > Beha
ist [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of
McKown, John
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 7:40 AM
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>From personal experience here: Our z/OS network person campaigned for "no
>outbound connection
gt; Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2011 5:38 PM
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>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On
> > Behalf Of Dick Bond
> >
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Gibney, Dave
> >
> > That's a couple of big "ifs" - that's why we can't use it. Our
> workstation IP
> > addresses, even if fixed (like mine - most are not), cannot be
> accessed from
> > z/OS. I would think most real
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On
> Behalf Of Dick Bond
> Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2011 3:19 PM
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> Subject: Re: Cool Things You Can Do in z/OS
>
> That's a couple of big "ifs" - that's why we can't use it.
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