Re: Fw: Fw: IMS at the Crossroads?

2006-06-02 Thread Edward Jaffe
Ed Finnell wrote: Define new development? Most small to medium businesses evolve current working/paying applications to add form and function. It's a question of will this work with our existing system(s). I've seen good and bad, overfunded and underfunded, great success and dismal failures

Re: Fw: Fw: IMS at the Crossroads?

2006-06-02 Thread Chase, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Anton Britz > > Wayne, > > Not sure what you are smoking but the last time I looked, z/OS had a > switch in parmlib that says "31 bit mode or 64 bit mode. Haven't looked at z/OS 1.6 or later, have you? z/OS 1.5 al

Re: Fw: Fw: IMS at the Crossroads?

2006-06-01 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 6/1/2006 6:18:53 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: True. But, such paid product support extensions have absolutely no bearing on new development. >> Define new development? Most small to medium businesses evolve current working/paying applications

Re: Fw: Fw: IMS at the Crossroads?

2006-06-01 Thread Wayne Driscoll
e LLC NOTE: All opinions are strictly my own. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anton Britz Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 5:03 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Fw: Fw: IMS at the Crossroads? Wayne, Not sure what you are

Re: Fw: Fw: IMS at the Crossroads?

2006-06-01 Thread Edward Jaffe
Ed Finnell wrote: It is my understanding there are far-eastern companies paying IBM millions per month for DB/2 1.3 support! Stuff happens. Mergers don't, staff gets rerouted, education plans get sidetracked. Projects get dropped and then the new stuff turns out to be the application from Vo

Re: Fw: Fw: IMS at the Crossroads?

2006-06-01 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 6/1/2006 4:53:27 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: will be completely desupported by z/OS. Why on earth would those involved in a major DB2 rewrite, targeted for generally availability *after* September 2004, waste time "dual pathing" all of their co

Re: Fw: Fw: IMS at the Crossroads?

2006-06-01 Thread Edward Jaffe
Anton Britz wrote: Not sure what you are smoking but the last time I looked, z/OS had a switch in parmlib that says "31 bit mode or 64 bit mode. The last time you looked??! Dude, that must have been years ago! The Bi-Modal Accommodation feature was applicable to z/OS 1.2, 1.3, and 1.4 only!

Re: Fw: Fw: IMS at the Crossroads?

2006-06-01 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>Not sure what you are smoking but the last time I looked, z/OS had a switch >in parmlib that says "31 bit mode or 64 bit mode. First, could you stop with the ad hominem? Second, that switch went away with 1.5 (1.6 at the latest). You have no choice with supported OS but to run with 64-bit.

Re: Fw: Fw: IMS at the Crossroads?

2006-06-01 Thread Anton Britz
Wayne, Not sure what you are smoking but the last time I looked, z/OS had a switch in parmlib that says "31 bit mode or 64 bit mode. You can run z/Os in any of the two modes and it works but some how DB2 V8 on the z/OS platform did not have that capability. Not talking about My/Sql on your

Re: Fw: Fw: IMS at the Crossroads?

2006-06-01 Thread Wayne Driscoll
are LLC NOTE: All opinions are strictly my own. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anton Britz Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 4:41 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Fw: Fw: IMS at the Crossroads? NO other DATABASE ven

Re: Fw: Fw: IMS at the Crossroads?

2006-06-01 Thread Edward Jaffe
Ted MacNEIL wrote: IBM no longer supports 31-bit operating systems. So, why should they insist on that for their sub-systems? Exactly so! Every z/OS release since September 2004 requires z/Architecture. And, a mere nine months from now, the ESA/390 platform will be completely desupported b

Re: Fw: Fw: IMS at the Crossroads?

2006-06-01 Thread Anton Britz
NO other DATABASE vendor FORCES you to change your hardware box to get additional "software" performance functionality for your SAP/PeopleSoft systems, which is not performing because the SAP/PeopleSoft vendors decided to use DB2. Now, before you start swearing/shooting/spitting again, this is

Fw: Fw: IMS at the Crossroads?

2006-06-01 Thread Ted MacNEIL
--Original Message-- To: Anton Britz Sent: Jun 1, 2006 17:33 Subject: Re: Fw: IMS at the Crossroads? >Where in the World have you heard that a Software supplier forces you to run a >64 but machine before you can "Upgrade". The concept of 64-bit machines is basicly to allow you to move som