Ref Posting from: Michael W. Moss on Sun, 22 Nov 2009 03:34:16 -0600
(portions forwarded below)
I didn't see a response to the note below, my apologies if the answer
was already provided and I missed it.
It is slightly more accurate to rephrase what Jim said this way:
If you choose VWLC for
I couldnt agree more, different strokes for different folks, and so not
everyone is best suited to VWLC, and yes lets perform due diligence to
determine the best z/OS software pricing model.
The one area I think we need clarification is the all z/OS products are VWLC
eligible observation.
In of44bd9f0f.5297d5eb-on49257674.0020a988-49257674.00210...@us.ibm.com,
on 11/20/2009
at 03:00 PM, Timothy Sipples timothy.sipp...@us.ibm.com said:
Yes. And that particular upgrade is *not* being withdrawn effective June
30, 2010. There is currently no withdrawal date for that upgrade.
On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 09:31:01 -0600, Michael W. Moss mikey.m...@virgin.net
wrote:
With sub-capacity and the promise of lower software costs via VWLC pricing,
would anybody like to comment as to why VWLC pricing isnt being adopted?
Is it ELA/ESSO (IBM Contract) related, or the uncertainty of the
In 4b02cbff.6000...@phoenixsoftware.com, on 11/17/2009
at 08:14 AM, Edward Jaffe edja...@phoenixsoftware.com said:
Is there something z9 does that z10 can't? Who will buy z9s with z10s
available at the same price?
Is there a direct upgrade from, e.g., z890 to z10?
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Shmuel (Seymour
Shmuel Metz asks:
Is there a direct upgrade from, e.g., z890 to z10?
Yes. And that particular upgrade is *not* being withdrawn effective June
30, 2010. There is currently no withdrawal date for that upgrade.
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Based in Tokyo,
McKown, John pisze:
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John,
We downgraded our z9BC recently
On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 12:36:17 +0100, R.S. r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl wrote:
Just curious: What casues such bill reduction?
Is it ISV software or IBM software?
I'm asking because thanks to WLC pricing you don't need to worry about
installed MIPS (I mean IBM software bill).
There are a LARGE
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Jim Elliott, IBM
On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 12:36:17 +0100, R.S.
r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl wrote:
Just curious: What casues such bill reduction?
Is it ISV software or IBM software?
I'm asking because thanks to WLC
No, it is full WDFM.. You won't be able to upgrade either. No microcode
changes so no CPU purchases, no new I/O cards.
I agree with Mark, this is early. z900 and z990 from being made available
to End of upgrades was 6 years. z9 is 4 years 9 months with no announcement of
zNext (z11 ?).
So
Mark Rodger pisze:
No, it is full WDFM.. You won't be able to upgrade either. No microcode
changes so no CPU purchases, no new I/O cards.
This is a problem with microcode changes. Cards can be added/removed
without IBM assistance. Legally.
BTDT. There's no black magic here, fortunately.
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snip
Just curious: What casues such bill reduction
With sub-capacity and the promise of lower software costs via VWLC pricing,
would anybody like to comment as to why VWLC pricing isnt being adopted?
Is it ELA/ESSO (IBM Contract) related, or the uncertainty of the software bill?
AFAIK, for DR situations and looping transactions, naming but 2,
On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 08:04:39 -0600, Mark Rodger
mark_rod...@standardlife.com wrote:
No, it is full WDFM.. You won't be able to upgrade either. No microcode
changes so no CPU purchases, no new I/O cards.
I agree with Mark, this is early. z900 and z990 from being made available
to End of
http://www.ibm.com/vrm/newsletter_10577_5896_139734_email_DYN_1IN/nwk68500100
I thought June 2010 was a little early if the z11 isn't going to be
available until Q4 2010, but to be honest I haven't payed attention
to the exact timing of past withdrawal announcements.
Mark
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On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 09:58:49 -0600, Chase, John jch...@ussco.com wrote:
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I thought June 2010 was a little early if the z11
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John,
We downgraded our z9BC recently. The CE
On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 12:08 PM, Mark Zelden mark.zel...@zurichna.comwrote:
Thanks, I understand about all that. I just thought the timing seemed
a little early.
Well, the ARE four years old...time flies!
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Mark Zelden wrote:
http://www.ibm.com/vrm
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http://www.ibm.com/vrm/newsletter_10577_5896_139734_email_DYN_1IN/nwk685
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I thought June 2010 was a little early if the z11 isn't going to be
available until Q4 2010, but to be honest I haven't
Mark Zelden wrote:
http://www.ibm.com/vrm/newsletter_10577_5896_139734_email_DYN_1IN/nwk68500100
I thought June 2010 was a little early if the z11 isn't going to be
available until Q4 2010, but to be honest I haven't payed attention
to the exact timing of past withdrawal announcements.
Is
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we upgraded from a Z/9 to a Z/10 and saved 215K
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But instead of downgrading why not get the z10BC
Such a service in Europe costs EUR 11000...
JC
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