Re: Have to reformat IPL volume with IPLTEXT

2006-04-24 Thread Ambat Ravi Nair
it's a case of i'm right and the whole world didn't figure it out right anyhow, i'm leaving that place very soon On Sun, 23 Apr 2006 09:02:38 -0300, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) shmuel+ibm- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 04/22/2006 at 08:17 PM, Ambat Ravi Nair [EMAIL

Re: Have to reformat IPL volume with IPLTEXT

2006-04-23 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 04/22/2006 at 08:17 PM, Ambat Ravi Nair [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: my current employer believes in doing just that: applying to live system. Who's going to wind up holding the bag when the balloon goes up? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and

Re: Have to reformat IPL volume with IPLTEXT

2006-04-22 Thread Ambat Ravi Nair
Skip, my current employer believes in doing just that: applying to live system. they don't believe in cloning, nor indirect cataloging. coupled with that, we have a rather nonsupporting security team. there's plenty of landmines to be cleared ...

Re: Have to reformat IPL volume with IPLTEXT

2006-04-21 Thread Kok, Howi
Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Skip Robinson Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 3:31 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Have to reformat IPL volume with IPLTEXT The only thing I can think of is that the sysres cloning step is not picking up Track 0. We use DFDSS

Re: Have to reformat IPL volume with IPLTEXT

2006-04-20 Thread Ambat Ravi Nair
i remember seeing this APAR, as i was prepping my 1.4 with all tolerant fixes, readying for 1.7 anyway, i had about close to 300 PTFs applied, and several of the HOLDACTIONS mentioned re-creating the IPL text, as well as the SADump. had no problems with that - IPLed smoothly 2 weeks ago. did

Re: Have to reformat IPL volume with IPLTEXT

2006-04-20 Thread Kok, Howi
job to circumvent this. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ambat Ravi Nair Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 8:59 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Have to reformat IPL volume with IPLTEXT i remember seeing this APAR, as i

Re: Have to reformat IPL volume with IPLTEXT

2006-04-20 Thread Kok, Howi
Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jousma, David Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 10:45 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Have to reformat IPL volume with IPLTEXT Howie, On this topic, I have built into my clone process, a step that always builds new IPLTEXT from my master

Re: Have to reformat IPL volume with IPLTEXT

2006-04-20 Thread Skip Robinson
323-715-0595 Mobile [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kok, Howi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU 04/20/2006 08:58 AM Please respond to IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU To IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU cc Subject Re: Have to reformat IPL volume with IPLTEXT

Re: Have to reformat IPL volume with IPLTEXT

2006-04-20 Thread Ambat Ravi Nair
i'd suppose you would have: 1. cloned SYSRES (which contained old IPL text) 2. applied fixes to new target libraries in cloned volume 3. rebuilt IPL text onto cloned volume from newly updated target libraries - ravi. Kok, Howi wrote: Dave, I believe writing

Re: Have to reformat IPL volume with IPLTEXT

2006-04-20 Thread Skip Robinson
by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU 04/20/2006 03:03 PM Please respond to IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU To IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU cc Subject Re: Have to reformat IPL volume with IPLTEXT i'd suppose you would have: 1. cloned SYSRES (which

Have to reformat IPL volume with IPLTEXT

2006-04-19 Thread Kok, Howi
Hi All, I don't know since which maintenance, could be OA09050, I have been unable to IPL until I reformat the IPL volume even though I initialized it with IPL TEXT. Does anyone has the same problem and how you solve it? We are at z/OS 1.4. Thanks, Howi Kok

Re: Have to reformat IPL volume with IPLTEXT

2006-04-19 Thread Bruce Black
I don't know since which maintenance, could be OA09050, I have been unable to IPL until I reformat the IPL volume even though I initialized it with IPL TEXT. Does anyone has the same problem and how you solve it? We are at z/OS 1.4. You didn't indicate what happens to your IPL. Do you get a

Re: Have to reformat IPL volume with IPLTEXT

2006-04-19 Thread Kok, Howi
I got wait code 075 but can't remember what reason code. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bruce Black Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 9:55 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Have to reformat IPL volume with IPLTEXT I