Re: IBM And Microsoft Clash Over Unbundling Policy

2010-03-23 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In , on 03/19/2010 at 12:10 PM, Howard Brazee said: >Since Apple and IBM *are* their hardware vendors, they essentially do the >same thing. No. There is a thriving market in 3rd party mainframe software, IBM markets software on hardware that it doesn't make and IBM releases interface informat

Re: IBM And Microsoft Clash Over Unbundling Policy

2010-03-19 Thread Howard Brazee
On 19 Mar 2010 10:57:29 -0700, shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net (Shmuel Metz , Seymour J.) wrote: >>How does Microsoft limit its hardware vendors that >>is more limiting than what IBM (or Apple) does? > >Micro$oft imposes contract that essentially require charging customers for >m$ software on every b

Re: IBM And Microsoft Clash Over Unbundling Policy

2010-03-19 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In , on 03/15/2010 at 02:38 PM, "McKown, John" said: >What competitive boxen? Any PC running Hercules, for starters. >Hercules/390 never was designed to really be a competitor. Yet it still is. >That PSI / Itanium thingie? That too. >It does appear, to me, that IBM wants to tightly contr

Re: IBM And Microsoft Clash Over Unbundling Policy

2010-03-19 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In , on 03/16/2010 at 09:23 AM, Howard Brazee said: >How does Microsoft limit its hardware vendors that >is more limiting than what IBM (or Apple) does? Micro$oft imposes contract that essentially require charging customers for m$ software on every box shipped. They also sign contracts with h

Re: IBM And Microsoft Clash Over Unbundling Policy

2010-03-16 Thread Howard Brazee
On 15 Mar 2010 12:19:23 -0700, shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net (Shmuel Metz , Seymour J.) wrote: >>IBM And Microsoft Clash Over Unbundling Policy >>http://www.informationweek.com/news/global-cio/interviews/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=223800165 > >Does this mean that microsoft h

Re: IBM And Microsoft Clash Over Unbundling Policy

2010-03-15 Thread Bruno Sugliani
ua.edu >> Subject: Re: IBM And Microsoft Clash Over Unbundling Policy >> >> In , on 03/15/2010 >> at 10:48 AM, Anne & Lynn Wheeler said: >> >> >IBM And Microsoft Clash Over Unbundling Policy >> >http://www.informationweek.com/news/global-cio/interviews

Re: IBM And Microsoft Clash Over Unbundling Policy

2010-03-15 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) > Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 2:19 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Subject: Re: IBM And Microsoft Clash Over Unbundling Policy > > In

Re: IBM And Microsoft Clash Over Unbundling Policy

2010-03-15 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In , on 03/15/2010 at 10:48 AM, Anne & Lynn Wheeler said: >IBM And Microsoft Clash Over Unbundling Policy >http://www.informationweek.com/news/global-cio/interviews/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=223800165 Does this mean that microsoft has stopped signing restrictive contracts wit

Re: IBM And Microsoft Clash Over Unbundling Policy

2010-03-15 Thread McKown, John
heeler > Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 9:49 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Subject: IBM And Microsoft Clash Over Unbundling Policy > > The following message is a courtesy copy of an article > that has been posted to > bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. >

IBM And Microsoft Clash Over Unbundling Policy

2010-03-15 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. IBM And Microsoft Clash Over Unbundling Policy http://www.informationweek.com/news/global-cio/interviews/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=223800165 from above