Re: IBM And Microsoft Clash Over Unbundling Policy

2010-03-23 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In aef7q5lrcj8o63jenbmmbmv0lsrdo77...@4ax.com, on 03/19/2010 at 12:10 PM, Howard Brazee howard.bra...@cusys.edu said: Since Apple and IBM *are* their hardware vendors, they essentially do the same thing. No. There is a thriving market in 3rd party mainframe software, IBM markets software on

Re: IBM And Microsoft Clash Over Unbundling Policy

2010-03-19 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In ee8vp5tr7088k1abshpptdrdgv52ai5...@4ax.com, on 03/16/2010 at 09:23 AM, Howard Brazee howard.bra...@cusys.edu said: How does Microsoft limit its hardware vendors that is more limiting than what IBM (or Apple) does? Micro$oft imposes contract that essentially require charging customers for

Re: IBM And Microsoft Clash Over Unbundling Policy

2010-03-19 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In a6b9336cdb62bb46b9f8708e686a7ea005c021b...@nrhmms8p02.uicnrh.dom, on 03/15/2010 at 02:38 PM, McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com said: What competitive boxen? Any PC running Hercules, for starters. Hercules/390 never was designed to really be a competitor. Yet it still is. That

Re: IBM And Microsoft Clash Over Unbundling Policy

2010-03-19 Thread Howard Brazee
On 19 Mar 2010 10:57:29 -0700, shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net (Shmuel Metz , Seymour J.) wrote: How does Microsoft limit its hardware vendors that is more limiting than what IBM (or Apple) does? Micro$oft imposes contract that essentially require charging customers for m$ software on every box

Re: IBM And Microsoft Clash Over Unbundling Policy

2010-03-16 Thread Howard Brazee
On 15 Mar 2010 12:19:23 -0700, shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net (Shmuel Metz , Seymour J.) wrote: IBM And Microsoft Clash Over Unbundling Policy http://www.informationweek.com/news/global-cio/interviews/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=223800165 Does this mean that microsoft has stopped signing

IBM And Microsoft Clash Over Unbundling Policy

2010-03-15 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. IBM And Microsoft Clash Over Unbundling Policy http://www.informationweek.com/news/global-cio/interviews/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=223800165 from above

Re: IBM And Microsoft Clash Over Unbundling Policy

2010-03-15 Thread McKown, John
, 2010 9:49 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: IBM And Microsoft Clash Over Unbundling Policy The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. IBM And Microsoft Clash Over Unbundling Policy http

Re: IBM And Microsoft Clash Over Unbundling Policy

2010-03-15 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In m3zl29zlm3@garlic.com, on 03/15/2010 at 10:48 AM, Anne Lynn Wheeler l...@garlic.com said: IBM And Microsoft Clash Over Unbundling Policy http://www.informationweek.com/news/global-cio/interviews/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=223800165 Does this mean that microsoft has stopped signing

Re: IBM And Microsoft Clash Over Unbundling Policy

2010-03-15 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 2:19 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: IBM And Microsoft Clash Over Unbundling Policy In m3zl29zlm3@garlic.com, on 03

Re: IBM And Microsoft Clash Over Unbundling Policy

2010-03-15 Thread Bruno Sugliani
: IBM And Microsoft Clash Over Unbundling Policy In m3zl29zlm3@garlic.com, on 03/15/2010 at 10:48 AM, Anne Lynn Wheeler l...@garlic.com said: IBM And Microsoft Clash Over Unbundling Policy http://www.informationweek.com/news/global-cio/interviews/sho wArticle.jhtml?articleID=223800165