Re: Is this possible to S/A IPL from the HMC DVD?

2010-07-22 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 17:19:57 +0300, Itschak Mugzach wrote: >I don;t think z/Os has to do with this. This is a stand alone IPL. DSS S/A >image can be generated as a card-reader image (F/80/80) which is also >supported by tape (according to the manual). Anyway, the HMC does allow >to load S/A utili

Re: Is this possible to S/A IPL from the HMC DVD?

2010-07-22 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2010-07-22 17:46, Arye Shemer pisze: My two cents opinion, since z/VM and zLinux can be IPLed from a DVD (by my experience) I see no reason why you could not IPL z/OS from DVD. I see one: IBM will. IBM decided to set up DVD IPL for VM and Linux. IBM did not prepared such possibility fo

Re: Is this possible to S/A IPL from the HMC DVD?

2010-07-22 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2010-07-22 19:12, Paul Gilmartin pisze: [...] Does the HMC DVD appear as a channel attached device, or is it accessed by a LAN connection to the HMC? That's the problem. It's neither device, nor network station. You cannot access HMC (or DVD drive) as channel attached device. It also do

Re: Is this possible to S/A IPL from the HMC DVD?

2010-07-22 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 18:46:50 +0300, Arye Shemer wrote: > >since z/VM and zLinux can be IPLed from a DVD (by my experience) I see no >reason >why you could not IPL z/OS from DVD. > >Of course as mentioned above, you must format the correct files on the DVD. >Beside documentation you might want to l

Re: Is this possible to S/A IPL from the HMC DVD?

2010-07-22 Thread Itschak Mugzach
Arie, Thanks. We knew it can be done and so tells the HMC help screen. We will try to ipl next week from a DVD after changing to Single Object Operation (so far, we tried without it) and report here. It seems not well documented in the HMC user guide. Paul, The load program is stored in the HMC a

Re: Is this possible to S/A IPL from the HMC DVD?

2010-07-22 Thread Arye Shemer
My two cents opinion, since z/VM and zLinux can be IPLed from a DVD (by my experience) I see no reason why you could not IPL z/OS from DVD. Of course as mentioned above, you must format the correct files on the DVD. Beside documentation you might want to look inside a zLinux (REDHAT or SUSE) DVD

Re: Is this possible to S/A IPL from the HMC DVD?

2010-07-21 Thread Itschak Mugzach
Alen. I don;t think z/Os has to do with this. This is a stand alone IPL. DSS S/A image can be generated as a card-reader image (F/80/80) which is also supported by tape (according to the manual). Anyway, the HMC does allow to load S/A utilities from CD, but it requires an INS file that points to t

Re: Is this possible to S/A IPL from the HMC DVD?

2010-07-21 Thread Alan Altmark
On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 12:21:49 +0300, Itschak Mugzach wrote: >During z/Linux installation it is possible to use the HMC's DVD drive as a >tape drive. I wonder is DSS S/A can be started (Loaded) from same device and >not from a IOCP defined device. Unless z/OS specifically provides support to do th

Re: Is this possible to S/A IPL from the HMC DVD?

2010-07-21 Thread Matan Cohen
Well I found this document : http://perso.wanadoo.es/rptv2005/ipl_desde_CD/en/index.html but it refer to HERCULES. But don't know the way to convert those actions so they will match zOS , and how to create the .img files of the memorey images any help by others? On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 3:01 PM, It

Re: Is this possible to S/A IPL from the HMC DVD?

2010-07-20 Thread Itschak Mugzach
Radoslaw, I wonder what your advise was. I am looking for an answer to what you defined as "another question". ITschak On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 2:36 PM, R.S. wrote: > Itschak Mugzach pisze: > > During z/Linux installation it is possible to use the HMC's DVD drive as a >> tape drive. I wonder is

Re: Is this possible to S/A IPL from the HMC DVD?

2010-07-20 Thread R.S.
Itschak Mugzach pisze: During z/Linux installation it is possible to use the HMC's DVD drive as a tape drive. I wonder is DSS S/A can be started (Loaded) from same device and not from a IOCP defined device. You answerd yourself. Is IPL form DVD possible? YES. Linux DVD is one of the evidences.

Is this possible to S/A IPL from the HMC DVD?

2010-07-20 Thread Itschak Mugzach
During z/Linux installation it is possible to use the HMC's DVD drive as a tape drive. I wonder is DSS S/A can be started (Loaded) from same device and not from a IOCP defined device. ITschak -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff /