Re: Fw: Re: 308x Processors - was "Mainframe articles"

2009-05-12 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>3033 and 3081 in 370 mode were 24bit 16mbyte) addressing (real & virtual). We had 40M on our 3081 in 370 mode. Virtual was 16, but the OS could use the extra 24M, not as efficiently as XA, but it was used. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! ---

Re: Fw: Re: 308x Processors - was "Mainframe articles"

2009-05-12 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
ng with the 3033MP? re: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009g.html#71 308x Processors - was "Mainframe articles" ... the 3033 had special page table entry definition for 14-bit real page number (16384 4096byte real pages or 64mbytes). the internal 3033 hardware could address more than 16

Re: Mainframe articles

2009-05-12 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
re: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009g.html#66 Mainframe articles http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009g.html#67 Mainframe articles http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009g.html#68 IT Infrastructure Slideshow: The IBM Mainframe: 50 Years of Big Iron Innovation http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009g.html#70

Re: Fw: Re: 308x Processors - was "Mainframe articles"

2009-05-12 Thread Thompson, Steve
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Anne & Lynn Wheeler Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 12:40 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Fw: Re: 308x Processors - was "Mainframe articles" 3033 and 3081 in 370 m

Re: Fw: Re: 308x Processors - was "Mainframe articles"

2009-05-12 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
. re: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009g.html#66 Mainframe articles http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009g.html#67 Mainframe articles http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009g.html#68 IT Infrastructure Slideshow: The IBM Mainframe: 50 Years of Big Iron Innovation http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009g.html#70 Mainframe art

Fw: Re: 308x Processors - was "Mainframe articles"

2009-05-12 Thread Patrick Falcone
Correction they were 3081K 32's, one of the other posts jolted my memory back into focus. Sorry for the drift. --- On Tue, 5/12/09, Patrick Falcone wrote: From: Patrick Falcone Subject: Re: 308x Processors - was "Mainframe articles" To: "IBM Mainframe Discussion List&quo

Re: Mainframe articles

2009-05-12 Thread Bruno Sugliani
On Tue, 12 May 2009 11:03:04 +0200, Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM wrote: > > >"Bruno Sugliani" wrote in message >news:... >> On Tue, 12 May 2009 01:51:26 -0400, Scott T. Harder >> wrote: >> >> >Maybe it was a 3080 when I first logged on to TSO??? Sorry... a bit >foggy. >> > >> I would guess a 3081 >>

Re: Mainframe articles

2009-05-12 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 5/12/2009 8:20:44 A.M. Central Daylight Time, l...@garlic.com writes: initial 3081 ... was 3081D where each processor was about five mips ... not a whole lot faster than 3033 two-processor. fairly quickly after that, 3081K shipped with each processor about seven mips (14m

Re: 308x Processors - was "Mainframe articles"

2009-05-12 Thread Patrick Falcone
We had 3081's at a time share back in the mid 80's. At one point we took 2 3081G's and had IBM put them together to form a 3084 Q64 w/PIF. --- On Tue, 5/12/09, Martin Packer wrote: From: Martin Packer Subject: 308x Processors - was "Mainframe articles" To: IBM-MAIN@

Re: Mainframe articles

2009-05-12 Thread Tom Marchant
On Tue, 12 May 2009 07:14:32 -0400, Anne & Lynn Wheeler wrote: > >3082 waas the "service processor". One of the issues was that field >engineering required a "boot-strap" diagnostic process ... which started >with scoping failed components and going up from there. TCMs in 308x >were not "scope'abl

Re: Mainframe articles

2009-05-12 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main as well. re: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009g.html#66 Mainframe articles http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009g.html#67 Mainframe articles http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009g.html#68 IT Infrastructure

Re: Mainframe articles

2009-05-12 Thread Martin Packer
Care to talk about the various slugged (and not slugged) models. And "base" vs "X"? Cheers, Martin Martin Packer Performance Consultant IBM United Kingdom Ltd +44-20-8832-5167 +44-7802-245-584 email: martin_pac...@uk.ibm.com Twitter ID: MartinPacker "They're figuring out that collaboration is

Re: Mainframe articles

2009-05-12 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main as well. scottyt.har...@gmail.com (Scott T. Harder) writes: > Very cool. Funny, though... I remember first logging onto TSO on what > I thought was a 3082 (although I didn't know what even DASD w

308x Processors - was "Mainframe articles"

2009-05-12 Thread Martin Packer
3083 was Uni, 3081 was Dyadic (2 -way Non-Partitionable), 3084 was Partitionable 4-way. Base and X models with almost unrememberable model letters. Interestingly, later on you could get a 1+1 2-way and a 2+1 3-way. The benefits of these were larger caches (as you got 2 of them). I'm not sure

Re: Mainframe articles

2009-05-12 Thread Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM
"Bruno Sugliani" wrote in message news:... > On Tue, 12 May 2009 01:51:26 -0400, Scott T. Harder > wrote: > > >Maybe it was a 3080 when I first logged on to TSO??? Sorry... a bit foggy. > > > I would guess a 3081 > > Bruno Sugliani I think so too. A 3082 and 3083 were parts of the 3081

Re: Mainframe articles

2009-05-12 Thread Bruno Sugliani
On Tue, 12 May 2009 01:51:26 -0400, Scott T. Harder wrote: >Maybe it was a 3080 when I first logged on to TSO??? Sorry... a bit foggy. > I would guess a 3081 Bruno Sugliani zxnetconsult(at)free(dot)fr http://zxnetconsult.free.fr ---

Re: Mainframe articles

2009-05-11 Thread Scott T. Harder
Maybe it was a 3080 when I first logged on to TSO??? Sorry... a bit foggy. On 5/11/09, Scott T. Harder wrote: > Very cool. Funny, though... I remember first logging onto TSO on what > I thought was a 3082 (although I didn't know what even DASD was at the > time). Then, when I finally got my ha

Re: Mainframe articles

2009-05-11 Thread Scott T. Harder
Very cool. Funny, though... I remember first logging onto TSO on what I thought was a 3082 (although I didn't know what even DASD was at the time). Then, when I finally got my hands on a mainframe in MCO, it was a 3084. This slideshow shows a 3083, which I don't have any recollection of. Looks

Mainframe articles

2009-05-11 Thread Howard Brazee
A nice slide show on the history of IBM mainframes: http://www.eweek.com/c/a/IT-Infrastructure/The-IBM-Mainframe-50-Years-of -Big-Iron-Innovation-583073/?kc=EWKNLEDP05112009A http://www.eweek.com/c/a/IT-Infrastructure/50-Years-of-IBM-Mainframe-Mil estones-136541/?kc=EWKNLEDP05112009C