On 17 Jun 2006 07:06:12 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: >It is worse than that. If you set up 'automatic update' then you >may not even be aware that update is happening. I think that this >illustrates the difference between the windoze mentality and >the mainframe mentality ... The mainframe systems programmer >generally comes to accept the (paraphrased) words of the >'hippocratic oath': First, do no harm ... > . >I think this also relates to an earlier thread about the >caution with which mainframe folks approach new experiments >(vs seat-of-the-pants windoze approach).
While I own IBM stock and no Microsoft stock, The problems of Microsoft are in part due to the target ownership. The majority of home computers are owned and used by people who are using them as tools to get something done. They are not computer professionals and would have a hard time dealing with multiple copies of the operating environment. It only is within a relatively short time that enough disk space has been available to do such a thing and the setup could be interesting. The automatic install of fixes may be the best option for the majority of users since they have neither the time nor the inclination to read the description of the updates. The only thing I really dislike about their practice of trying to force automatic after you have selected notify or download and notify. I also resent the Genuine advantage fix which has the potential for fouling my system and gives me no advantage. Given the various maintenance philosophies available from the various Linux support organizations, the other IBM operating environments and Microsoft, an overall study of these methodologies should be done to see what improvements are worth carrying into the z/OS environment. One of the things that can be done to improve reliability in all of the environments is to add or improve the means of updating system parameters (PARMLIBs for z/OS, the registry for Windows *.*, etc.). While my experience is before the Health Checker, I am hopeful that this is a good first step. All of the environments need to be easier and safer to manage. > > >Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 10:58:10 -0500- >From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Tim_Henness?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: Need Urgent Help, Please > >On Thu, 15 Jun 2006 16:06:48 -0700, Gibney, Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >wrote: > >>As always, you're playing with fire if APPLYING to the live system >>datasets. >> > >You mean like Windoze does? > >Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 11:18:37 -0500 >From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Tom_Schmidt?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: Need Urgent Help, Please > >On Fri, 16 Jun 2006 10:58:10 -0500, Tim Henness wrote: > >>On Thu, 15 Jun 2006 16:06:48 -0700, Gibney, Dave wrote: >> >>>As always, you're playing with fire if APPLYING to the live system >>>datasets. >> >>You mean like Windoze does? > >Exactly!! Like Windoze *did* to my formerly working PC at home, in >fact. >(Now I get to reinstall since it won't boot due to the damage Windoze >did >to its SYSTEM/CONFIG directory.) > >It is a baad idea on pretty much any system that you need. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html