Re: Mantissa Presenting at SHARE (March 6, 2009)?

2009-02-23 Thread Tony Harminc
2009/2/22 Patrick O'Keefe patrick.oke...@wamu.net: On Fri, 20 Feb 2009 11:14:14 -0700, Mark Post mp...@novell.com wrote: ... I don't know how successful they'll be, but I wish them well. ... I take it, then, that you are an exponent of Mantissa. Sorry. I couldn't resist. Characteristic

Re: Mantissa Presenting at SHARE (March 6, 2009)?

2009-02-23 Thread Ward, Mike S
Subject: Re: Mantissa Presenting at SHARE (March 6, 2009)? Comes up fine in IE 7 on my PC. Tom Kelman Enterprise Capacity Planner Commerce Bank of Kansas City (816) 760-7632 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of John McKown

Re: Mantissa Presenting at SHARE (March 6, 2009)?

2009-02-23 Thread Ward, Mike S
IBM won't let you run their products on x86 platform. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Kelman, Tom Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 10:36 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Mantissa Presenting at SHARE (March 6, 2009

Re: Mantissa Presenting at SHARE (March 6, 2009)?

2009-02-23 Thread Ken Porowski
Check your local 'IBM Linux on System z Executive Advisory Customer Council'. The NY meeting on March 13 is going to have a discussion on Mantissa, I assume the others will too at some point. -Original Message- Ward, Mike S This is fantastic, I wish I could go. Does anyone have any

Re: Mantissa Presenting at SHARE (March 6, 2009)?

2009-02-23 Thread Rich Smrcina
We'll all find out next Friday at Gary's presentation. Patience, grasshopper. Ward, Mike S wrote: This is fantastic, I wish I could go. Does anyone have any additional information on running windows under z/VM? -- Rich Smrcina VM Assist, Inc. Phone: 414-491-6001 Ans Service: 360-715-2467

Re: Mantissa Presenting at SHARE (March 6, 2009)?

2009-02-22 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Fri, 20 Feb 2009 11:14:14 -0700, Mark Post mp...@novell.com wrote: ... I don't know how successful they'll be, but I wish them well. ... I take it, then, that you are an exponent of Mantissa. Sorry. I couldn't resist. Pat O'Keefe

Mantissa Presenting at SHARE (March 6, 2009)?

2009-02-20 Thread Timothy Sipples
Now this is interesting http://www.mantissa.com/SHARE-conference - - - - - Timothy Sipples Consulting Enterprise Software Architect IBM Japan, Ltd. e99...@jp.ibm.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access

Re: Mantissa Presenting at SHARE (March 6, 2009)?

2009-02-20 Thread John McKown
On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 00:41:24 +0900, Timothy Sipples e99...@jp.ibm.com wrote: Now this is interesting http://www.mantissa.com/SHARE-conference - - - - - Timothy Sipples Looks like the web jockey totally messed up the HTML on that page. And all the others that I looked at as well. It just

Re: Mantissa Presenting at SHARE (March 6, 2009)?

2009-02-20 Thread Beesley, Paul
Displays OK in Firefox .. Regards Paul -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of John McKown Sent: 20 February 2009 15:57 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Mantissa Presenting at SHARE (March 6, 2009)? On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 00

Re: Mantissa Presenting at SHARE (March 6, 2009)?

2009-02-20 Thread Rich Smrcina
It comes up perfectly here. John McKown wrote: On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 00:41:24 +0900, Timothy Sipples e99...@jp.ibm.com wrote: Now this is interesting http://www.mantissa.com/SHARE-conference - - - - - Timothy Sipples Looks like the web jockey totally messed up the HTML on that page. And

Re: Mantissa Presenting at SHARE (March 6, 2009)?

2009-02-20 Thread John McKown
On Fri, 20 Feb 2009 09:56:42 -0600, John McKown joa...@swbell.net wrote: On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 00:41:24 +0900, Timothy Sipples e99...@jp.ibm.com wrote: Now this is interesting http://www.mantissa.com/SHARE-conference - - - - - Timothy Sipples Looks like the web jockey totally messed up the

Re: Mantissa Presenting at SHARE (March 6, 2009)?

2009-02-20 Thread Pinnacle
- Original Message - From: Timothy Sipples e99...@jp.ibm.com Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 10:42 AM Subject: Mantissa Presenting at SHARE (March 6, 2009)? Now this is interesting http://www.mantissa.com/SHARE-conference - - - - - Here's

Re: Mantissa Presenting at SHARE (March 6, 2009)?

2009-02-20 Thread Lionel B Dyck
The big question is how the licensing of MS Windows will work on z - assuming it is even possible. Lionel B. Dyck, Consultant/Specialist Enterprise Platform Services, Mainframe Engineering KP-IT Enterprise Engineering 925-926-5332 (8-473-5332) | E-Mail: lionel.b.d...@kp.org AIM: lbdyck |

Re: Mantissa Presenting at SHARE (March 6, 2009)?

2009-02-20 Thread Kelman, Tom
@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Mantissa Presenting at SHARE (March 6, 2009)? On Fri, 20 Feb 2009 09:56:42 -0600, John McKown joa...@swbell.net wrote: On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 00:41:24 +0900, Timothy Sipples e99...@jp.ibm.com wrote: Now this is interesting http://www.mantissa.com/SHARE-conference

Re: Mantissa Presenting at SHARE (March 6, 2009)?

2009-02-20 Thread Rich Smrcina
If you plan to attend the session, that will be a question for Gary. Lionel B Dyck wrote: The big question is how the licensing of MS Windows will work on z - assuming it is even possible. Lionel B. Dyck, Consultant/Specialist Enterprise Platform Services, Mainframe Engineering KP-IT

Re: Mantissa Presenting at SHARE (March 6, 2009)?

2009-02-20 Thread Lionel B Dyck
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Date: 02/20/2009 08:25 AM Subject: Re: Mantissa Presenting at SHARE (March 6, 2009)? Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu If you plan to attend the session, that will be a question for Gary. Lionel B Dyck wrote: The big question is how the licensing

Re: Mantissa Presenting at SHARE (March 6, 2009)?

2009-02-20 Thread Kelman, Tom
Presenting at SHARE (March 6, 2009)? If you plan to attend the session, that will be a question for Gary. Lionel B Dyck wrote: The big question is how the licensing of MS Windows will work on z - assuming it is even possible. Lionel B. Dyck, Consultant/Specialist Enterprise Platform Services

Re: Mantissa Presenting at SHARE (March 6, 2009)?

2009-02-20 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 20 Feb 2009 11:11:43 -0500, Pinnacle wrote: Now this is interesting http://www.mantissa.com/SHARE-conference - - - - - Here's to hoping that Microsoft sues Mantissa claiming patent infringement and then IBM and Mantissa countersue citing Microsoft's monopoly position (pot, meet

Re: Mantissa Presenting at SHARE (March 6, 2009)?

2009-02-20 Thread Tony Harminc
2009/2/20 Kelman, Tom thomas.kel...@commercebank.com: If a company has a license for Windows itself can Microsoft restrict what hardware it is run on? Well, IANAL etc, but there do seem to be two major MS WIndows licence types. The Retail licence doesn't say anything about what it runs on,

Re: Mantissa Presenting at SHARE (March 6, 2009)?

2009-02-20 Thread Tom Marchant
On Fri, 20 Feb 2009 10:04:07 -0600, John McKown wrote: On Fri, 20 Feb 2009 09:56:42 -0600, John McKown wrote: On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 00:41:24 +0900, Timothy Sipples wrote: Now this is interesting http://www.mantissa.com/SHARE-conference Looks like the web jockey totally messed up the HTML on

validator (was: Mantissa Presenting at SHARE (March 6, 2009))

2009-02-20 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 20 Feb 2009 11:39:14 -0600, Tom Marchant wrote: http://www.mantissa.com/SHARE-conference Looks like the web jockey totally messed up the HTML on that page. And all the others that I looked at as well. It just ends without all the markup. Hum. Page renders just fine in Firefox on

Re: Mantissa Presenting at SHARE (March 6, 2009)?

2009-02-20 Thread John McKown
On Fri, 20 Feb 2009 12:28:39 -0500, Tony Harminc tz...@attglobal.net wrote: snip It also seems inplausible that running Windows desktop on a z box is going to make sense. Surely it will be Windows server flavours that have the potential go move to big iron. And Windows servers are much easier to

Re: validator (was: Mantissa Presenting at SHARE (March 6, 2009))

2009-02-20 Thread John McKown
On Fri, 20 Feb 2009 11:58:44 -0600, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote: snip There's little pride of craftsmanship left nowadays. Management doesn't care and won't pay for it. If it works 80% of the time and does 80% of what is required, and only costs half of what 100% would cost, then

Re: Mantissa Presenting at SHARE (March 6, 2009)?

2009-02-20 Thread Mark Post
On 2/20/2009 at 12:28 PM, Tony Harminc tz...@attglobal.net wrote: -snip- It also seems inplausible that running Windows desktop on a z box is going to make sense. If you look at the right side of the web page, you can see some indications of where they think it might be useful. I don't know