Re: More SDSF security questions

2008-03-26 Thread Rich Smrcina
Are you referring to the ISFPRM00 parmlib member? The ISFOPER group starts off like this: GROUP NAME(ISFOPER),/* Group name */ TSOAUTH(JCL,OPER), /* User must have JCL and OPER */ ACTION(ALL),/* All route codes displayed

Re: More SDSF security questions

2008-03-26 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 08:25:04 -0500, Rich Smrcina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you referring to the ISFPRM00 parmlib member? The ISFOPER group starts off like this: GROUP NAME(ISFOPER),/* Group name */ TSOAUTH(JCL,OPER), /* User must have JCL and OPER

Re: More SDSF security questions

2008-03-26 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 03/24/2008 at 03:30 PM, Rich Smrcina [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I read sdsf. for the output. This essentially works, the problem is that when I run this in batch I only see myself. If I run this in TSO I can see all of the executing jobs on the system. Compare your

Re: More SDSF security questions

2008-03-26 Thread Schwarz, Barry A
: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 1:20 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: More SDSF security questions In TSO, I get this from the WHO command on the P390 user: USERID=P390,PROC=DBSPROC,TERMINAL=LCL701,GRPINDEX=2,GRPNAME=ISFOPER, MVS=z/OS 01.04.00,JES2=z/OS 1.4,SDSF=HQX7707,ISPF=5.2,RMF/DA=NOTACC

Re: More SDSF security questions

2008-03-26 Thread Rich Smrcina
Mark Zelden wrote: But I see 2 problems: 1) That still won't get you to fall into the ISFOPER group since it has TSOAUTH(JCL,OPER) and batch only gets TSOAUTH(JCL). Did you read my post from yesterday on this? Yes, I didn't have the ability to respond to all of the emails yesterday and I

Re: More SDSF security questions

2008-03-25 Thread Hank Medler
Rick, I don't believe you have a security issue. It has been a while, but I tend to remember having to use OWNER with no operand in order to see all the jobs on the system (not just my own) when running SDSF in batch. Please feed that into ISFIN on in.1 with DA on in.2 and in.0 set to 2. Let

Re: More SDSF security questions

2008-03-25 Thread Rich Smrcina
Hank, I tried this... in.2 = DA in.1 = OWNER in.0 = 2 execio * diskw isfin (STEM IN. finis) address linkmvs SDSF execio * diskr isfout (STEM SDSF. finis) FREE F(ISFIN ISFOUT) And got the same output. Thanks for the response. Any other ideas? Hank Medler wrote: Rick, I don't believe you

Re: More SDSF security questions

2008-03-25 Thread גדי בן אבי
, 2008 1:44 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: More SDSF security questions Hank, I tried this... in.2 = DA in.1 = OWNER in.0 = 2 execio * diskw isfin (STEM IN. finis) address linkmvs SDSF execio * diskr isfout (STEM SDSF. finis) FREE F(ISFIN ISFOUT) And got the same output. Thanks

Re: More SDSF security questions

2008-03-25 Thread גדי בן אבי
Of Rich Smrcina Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 1:44 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: More SDSF security questions Hank, I tried this... in.2 = DA in.1 = OWNER in.0 = 2 execio * diskw isfin (STEM IN. finis) address linkmvs SDSF execio * diskr isfout (STEM SDSF. finis) FREE F(ISFIN ISFOUT

Re: More SDSF security questions

2008-03-25 Thread Rich Smrcina
: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rich Smrcina Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 1:44 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: More SDSF security questions Hank, I tried this... in.2 = DA in.1 = OWNER in.0 = 2 execio * diskw isfin (STEM IN. finis) address linkmvs

Re: More SDSF security questions

2008-03-25 Thread Rich Smrcina
Your previous response also asked for the WHO output, here it is. USERID=P390,PROC=BATCH,TERMINAL=BATCH,GRPINDEX=3,GRPNAME=ISFUSER,MVS=z/OS 01.04 RMF/DA=NOTACC,SERVER=YES,SERVERNAME=SDSF,JESNAME=JES2,MEMBER=SYS1,SYSNAME=P390, Are PREFIX and SET DISPLAY commands entered by themselves (like

Re: More SDSF security questions

2008-03-25 Thread גדי בן אבי
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: More SDSF security questions Your previous response also asked for the WHO output, here it is. USERID=P390,PROC=BATCH,TERMINAL=BATCH,GRPINDEX=3,GRPNAME=ISFUSER,MVS=z/OS 01.04 RMF/DA=NOTACC,SERVER=YES,SERVERNAME=SDSF,JESNAME=JES2,MEMBER=SYS1,SYSNAME=P390

Re: More SDSF security questions

2008-03-25 Thread Rich Smrcina
I tried PREFIX and I get COMMAND NOT AUTHORIZED. גדי בן אבי wrote: Yes, The PREFIX and SET DISPLAY command are entered by themselves I thing the PREFIX command is the actual command your are missing. Gadi -- Rich Smrcina VM Assist, Inc. Phone: 414-491-6001 Ans Service: 360-715-2467

Re: More SDSF security questions

2008-03-25 Thread גדי בן אבי
The you have to change your security settings either is ISFPARMS or RACF. Gadi -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rich Smrcina Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 3:35 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: More SDSF security

Re: More SDSF security questions

2008-03-25 Thread Rich Smrcina
That was actually part of the original post. I added: ILPROC(BATCH), to: GROUP NAME(ISFSPROG), in ISFPRM00. I also have this entry below: NTBL NAME(BATCH) NTBLENT STRING(BATCH),OFFSET(1) To catch the PROC name BATCH when my job runs and authorize it as a ISFSPROG TSO User instead of

Re: More SDSF security questions

2008-03-25 Thread Dennis Trojak
And see if the PREFIX is set to * for all names. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ??? ?? ??? Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 7:07 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: More SDSF security questions 1. Issue the OWNER command

Re: More SDSF security questions

2008-03-25 Thread Rich Smrcina
] On Behalf Of ??? ?? ??? Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 7:07 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: More SDSF security questions 1. Issue the OWNER command before the DA command 2. Issue the WHO command. This will tell you many settings, and might help explain the problem. Gadi -- Rich Smrcina VM

Re: More SDSF security questions

2008-03-25 Thread Ulrich Krueger
in.2 = DA OJOB perhaps? Regards, Ulrich Krueger -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rich Smrcina Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 04:44 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: More SDSF security questions Hank, I tried this... in.2

Re: More SDSF security questions

2008-03-25 Thread Rich Smrcina
Now I don't even appear on the list (the list is empty). :( Ulrich Krueger wrote: in.2 = DA OJOB perhaps? Regards, Ulrich Krueger -- Rich Smrcina VM Assist, Inc. Phone: 414-491-6001 Ans Service: 360-715-2467 rich.smrcina at vmassist.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/richsmrcina Catch the

Re: More SDSF security questions

2008-03-25 Thread Arthur T.
On 25 Mar 2008 06:37:16 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main (Message-ID:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rich Smrcina) wrote: I tried PREFIX and I get COMMAND NOT AUTHORIZED. You had given us the output of the WHO command in batch, but you never showed us the output from what you

Re: More SDSF security questions

2008-03-25 Thread Mark Zelden
On Tue, 25 Mar 2008 11:47:07 -0500, Arthur T. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Many years back I found out that the userid used to search the SDSF tables is *not* the RACF userid when done from batch. Instead, it's the jobname-minus-last-character. I had opened a PMR; I forget details of the

Re: More SDSF security questions

2008-03-25 Thread Mark Zelden
On Tue, 25 Mar 2008 12:08:37 -0500, Mark Zelden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 25 Mar 2008 11:47:07 -0500, Arthur T. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Many years back I found out that the userid used to search the SDSF tables is *not* the RACF userid when done from batch. Instead, it's the

Re: More SDSF security questions

2008-03-25 Thread Rich Smrcina
In TSO, I get this from the WHO command on the P390 user: USERID=P390,PROC=DBSPROC,TERMINAL=LCL701,GRPINDEX=2,GRPNAME=ISFOPER, MVS=z/OS 01.04.00,JES2=z/OS 1.4,SDSF=HQX7707,ISPF=5.2,RMF/DA=NOTACC, and from batch: USERID=P390,PROC=BATCH,TERMINAL=BATCH,GRPINDEX=3,GRPNAME=ISFUSER,MVS=z/OS 01.04

Re: More SDSF security questions

2008-03-25 Thread Dennis Trojak
, 2008 3:20 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: More SDSF security questions In TSO, I get this from the WHO command on the P390 user: USERID=P390,PROC=DBSPROC,TERMINAL=LCL701,GRPINDEX=2,GRPNAME=ISFOPER, MVS=z/OS 01.04.00,JES2=z/OS 1.4,SDSF=HQX7707,ISPF=5.2,RMF/DA=NOTACC, and from batch

Re: More SDSF security questions

2008-03-25 Thread Rich Smrcina
I'm trying to override an existing definition. can I not do that? Do I need to create my own? Mark Zelden wrote: The biggest problem I have found with batch is that many shops have SDSF security set up (from the default/sample parms) based on TSO authorities (JCL, OPER, ACCT) and TSOAUTH is

Re: More SDSF security questions

2008-03-25 Thread Mark Zelden
I'm not sure I understand the question. If you are using parms similar to hlq.SISFJCL(ISFPRM00) and want to do something in batch based on userid, then you will have to add the group prior to the groups defined in those parms (or at least prior to the ISFUSER group) since the first match is what

More SDSF security questions

2008-03-24 Thread Rich Smrcina
With last weeks SDSF security questions, I have to chime in with my issue I'm submitting an SDSF DA command via REXX in batch: ALLOC F(ISFOUT) RECFM(F B A) LRECL(121) NEW UNIT(VIO) , DELETE CYLINDERS SPACE(1,1) REUSE DSORG(PS) ALLOC F(ISFIN) RECFM(F B) LRECL(80) NEW UNIT(VIO) ,