Re: Neon's zPrime - IBM response from July 10

2009-07-26 Thread Beesley, Paul
[mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Eric Bielefeld Sent: 23 July 2009 22:55 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Neon's zPrime - IBM response from July 10 I just commented about the MCMG meeting that I attended last Friday. On the ziip and zaap session that Al Sherkow gave, he talked quite

Re: Neon's zPrime - IBM response from July 10

2009-07-24 Thread Roach, Dennis (N-GHG)
Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Edward Jaffe Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 7:20 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Neon's zPrime - IBM response from July 10 P S wrote: My SWAG: This is NEON's way of getting IBM to buy them, to put them out of their misery

Neon's zPrime - IBM response from July 10

2009-07-23 Thread JE Thinnes
If you want IBM's initial response to zPrime, ask your IBM business partner. You can get a letter written by Mark Anzani (IBM VP and CTO, System z) dated July 10. Paragraph 4 and 5 lay out their position. Seems like IBM thinks you might owe them more money not less if you implement zPrime.

Re: Neon's zPrime - IBM response from July 10

2009-07-23 Thread Ken Porowski
@bama.ua.edu Subject: [IBM-MAIN] Neon's zPrime - IBM response from July 10 If you want IBM's initial response to zPrime, ask your IBM business partner. You can get a letter written by Mark Anzani (IBM VP and CTO, System z) dated July 10. Paragraph 4 and 5 lay out their position. Seems like IBM thinks

Re: Neon's zPrime - IBM response from July 10

2009-07-23 Thread Eric Bielefeld
I just commented about the MCMG meeting that I attended last Friday. On the ziip and zaap session that Al Sherkow gave, he talked quite a bit about the zPrime product, as several people there had seen the discussion on IBM-Main. He didn't have any knowledge (or at least he said he didn't)

Re: Neon's zPrime - IBM response from July 10

2009-07-23 Thread Shane
On Thu, 2009-07-23 at 14:00 -0500, JE Thinnes wrote: If you want IBM's initial response to zPrime, ask your IBM business partner. You can get a letter written by Mark Anzani (IBM VP and CTO, System z) dated July 10. Paragraph 4 and 5 lay out their position. Seems like IBM thinks you

Re: Neon's zPrime - IBM response from July 10

2009-07-23 Thread P S
On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 6:49 PM, Shaneibm-m...@tpg.com.au wrote: This just has to get uglier. Seems every vendor (IBM included) has been been announcing (to great fanfare) new exploitation of specialty engines. Presumably with IBMs imprimatur. So the initial concept has become quite a bit

Re: Neon's zPrime - IBM response from July 10

2009-07-23 Thread P S
On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 8:19 PM, Edward Jaffeedja...@phoenixsoftware.com wrote: That might be their objective. If so, it's a failed strategy. IBM knows that many ISVs figured out long ago how to enable 3rd-party code to run on zAAP/zIIP. (A fun exercise.) If IBM bought NEON (or zPrime) to

Re: Neon's zPrime - IBM response from July 10

2009-07-23 Thread Edward Jaffe
P S wrote: My SWAG: This is NEON's way of getting IBM to buy them, to put them out of their misery, a la PSI. That might be their objective. If so, it's a failed strategy. IBM knows that many ISVs figured out long ago how to enable 3rd-party code to run on zAAP/zIIP. (A fun exercise.) If

Re: Neon's zPrime - IBM response from July 10

2009-07-23 Thread Gibney, Dave
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Shane Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 3:49 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Neon's zPrime - IBM response from July 10 On Thu, 2009-07-23 at 14:00 -0500, JE Thinnes wrote