Several hours ago, I had entered a nice email on this topic that was running under the subject of: Re: IBM Redbook: "Introduction to the New Mainframe: z/OS Basics" . Since I spent about 10 minutes composing it, the *&*^% web site that I use to read IBM-Main on my laptop timed out. Usually, I can cut and paste the reply into a new email, but somehow I didn't get it cut, so when I tried to paste it into a new email, there was nothing there. That's our lousy Wisconsin Roadrunner webmail site. Sometimes, I think it times out in 5 minutes, and other times I swear it takes over a half hour. This email is from my desktop, using the usually reliable Outlook Express. I'll try to remember what I said before.

I have a friend who is the Dean of the IT program at the Waukesha Community Technical College (WCTC). He also used to be the president of the WASM (Wisconsin Association of Systems Management), a Naspa group. He has pretty much the same thing to say about new programs, such as the mainframe training that IBM is trying to get more colleges to offer. He says there has to be a market for it. Unfortunately, in the greater Milwaukee area, that market is diminishing more each year. Obviously, as I have told you in the past, the MVS mainframe is no longer in P&H Mining Equipment, where I used to work. I know of 2 more mainframes going away in the area, one in September, and one I think in about a year, although it may be 2 years. (CRS).

I estimate 10 to 12 mainframe data centers in the Milwaukee area at this time. When I started at P&H, I think there was more like 30 to 40. I know I had at least 10 interviews at companies in the area before I got my job at P&H. Now, there is only one job that I have heard of in the area for the last year and a half for a sysprog. Unfortunately I didn't get it.

I go to a group at our church that meets monthly to encourage and help people who are out of work, or underemployed. The leader of the group, who has worked in personal in the area most of his life, made the comment that southeast Wisconsin is the graveyard of IBM mainframes. It was really interesting, because at that meeting, a friend of mine who I used to work with about 25 years ago who was also a sysprog, gave his testimony of how he was out of work for over a year, and then finally got back into work in mainframe computers. I think he now is an application programmer, but I don't know for sure. I do know that now he has to drive 50 or 60 miles one way to northern Illinois every day.

By the way, I have a good lead on a job in Milwaukee, but as a Data Center Technical Analyst, not a sysprog. I would rather stay in Milwaukee doing that than make more money elsewhere as a sysprog.

Someone made the comment recently that they thought there were more postings on job boards for sysprogs. I have noticed that also, since I apply for most of the jobs that I qualify for. I especially noticed more and more jobs being offered by headhunters on the job boards. I don't think there was a lot of IT placement by headhunters in our profession for a while. I talked to one recruiter who still is in business in Milwaukee, but they do none of the previous placement where they get 30% or so of the persons first year of salary. Now he does things like screening resumes for companies when their personel department is too busy.

I think this email was a lot longer than my original, but then I didn't have to worry about my webmail site timing out.

Eric Bielefeld
Sr. z/OS Systems Programmer
Milwaukee Wisconsin
414-475-7434
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