Re: Old hardware (Was: Mainframe programming vs the Web)

2008-09-03 Thread Lester, Bob
> -Original Message- > From: Shmuel Metz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 1:16 PM > To: Lester, Bob > Subject: Re: Old hardware (Was: Mainframe programming vs the Web) > > Offline. > > In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, o

Re: Old hardware (Was: Mainframe programming vs the Web)

2008-05-19 Thread Rick Fochtman
--- We (TAB of NSW as it was then) had a pair of these old dears(360/44s, that is). We actually had the 'Commercial Feature" which gave you LM/STM, BXLE and BXH implemented in hardware, but the storage-to-torage and packed decimal instructions were all emulat

Re: Old hardware (Was: Mainframe programming vs the Web)

2008-05-18 Thread Steele, Phil
PROTECTED]   We deliver on our commitments so you can deliver on yours. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Fochtman Sent: Friday, 16 May 2008 11:12 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Old hardware (Was: Mainframe prog

Re: Old hardware (Was: Mainframe programming vs the Web)

2008-05-16 Thread William H. Blair
> By 1979 360/75s were 10+ years old. By 1979, 360/75s were 13-14 years old. TUCC in RTP, NC got one of the very first early in 1966. I was told in 1967 by one of the CEs in residence at TUCC that it wasn't the first one out of the barn, but it was nearly so. We knew that NASA had ordered five,

Re: Old hardware (Was: Mainframe programming vs the Web)

2008-05-16 Thread Scott Rowe
The two 360/75s in building 3/14 of NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center were not replaced until the early 1980's - along with the 360/95. The old 360s were still the primary tracking support systems for the first couple Space Shuttle missions. >>> Bob Rutledge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 5/15/2008 7:15

Re: Old hardware (Was: Mainframe programming vs the Web)

2008-05-16 Thread Lester, Bob
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of William H. Blair > Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 7:28 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Old hardware (Was: Mainframe programming vs the Web) > >

Re: Old hardware (Was: Mainframe programming vs the Web)

2008-05-16 Thread Rick Fochtman
--- The Model 75 was the smallest machine that implemented the System/360 instruction set in hardware, so it was correspondingly expensive. Let's not forget the 360/44. Except for the LM/STM/BXLE/BXH and Co

Re: Old hardware (Was: Mainframe programming vs the Web)

2008-05-16 Thread Daniel McLaughlin
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Re: Old hardware (Was: Mainframe programming vs the Web)

2008-05-16 Thread Dave Cartwright
On Thu, 15 May 2008 20:27:31 -0500, William H. Blair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >The System/360 Model 75 was not an UNcommon machine (as were >the Models 91, 95, 85 and 195) but it was not exactly common. >Only VERY large shops would feel the need for one. NASA had >five which were used to sup

Re: Old hardware (Was: Mainframe programming vs the Web)

2008-05-15 Thread William H. Blair
Bob Lester wrote: > Do you know if the 360/75 was a common machine at the time? > I worked as an operator on a 360/75J (and a 360/30). The System/360 Model 75 was not an UNcommon machine (as were the Models 91, 95, 85 and 195) but it was not exactly common. Only VERY large shops would feel the

Re: Old hardware (Was: Mainframe programming vs the Web)

2008-05-15 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>Do you mean 1969? By 1979 360/75s were 10+ years old. I went to the University of Waterloo (1976-1980), and I was told it was a 360/40, at the time. But, I do remember when it was replaced with a 303x machine. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! ---

Re: Old hardware (Was: Mainframe programming vs the Web)

2008-05-15 Thread Bob Rutledge
Do you mean 1969? By 1979 360/75s were 10+ years old. I did see a shiny new 360/75 at Gulf Research, probably in 1967. Bob Lester, Bob wrote: -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) Sent: Thursday, May

Old hardware (Was: Mainframe programming vs the Web)

2008-05-15 Thread Lester, Bob
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) > Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 2:13 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > > It was DOS/360, on a 360/75, at the University of Waterloo. > Hi Shmuel, Do y