Re: Alternate Sysres (Previously One more about SYRES Sharing

2005-09-06 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 09/03/2005 at 03:21 PM, Terry Sambrooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: The phrase alternate sysres is a part of my culture, or at least was up to March 1999. The maintenance philosophy dictated that our main system volumes operated in pairs. The active set and a maintenance

One more about SYRES Sharing

2005-09-02 Thread Lucas Morton
I'm in the process of redesign out z/OS infrastructure: In 1 year we increased our z/OS system images from 2 (1 production and 1 testing) to 6 (2 in production sysplex, 2 dev. and 2 test). So I think that a shared SYSRES might simplify the thing. Should I share SYSRES between sysplexes? I now

Re: One more about SYRES Sharing

2005-09-02 Thread Tom Schmidt
On Fri, 2 Sep 2005 17:38:21 +0200, Lucas Morton wrote: I'm in the process of redesign out z/OS infrastructure: In 1 year we increased our z/OS system images from 2 (1 production and 1 testing) to 6 (2 in production sysplex, 2 dev. and 2 test). So I think that a shared SYSRES might simplify the

Re: One more about SYRES Sharing

2005-09-02 Thread Tom Schmidt
On Fri, 2 Sep 2005 12:04:19 -0500, Tom Schmidt wrote: On Fri, 2 Sep 2005 17:38:21 +0200, Lucas Morton wrote: I'm in the process of redesign out z/OS infrastructure: In 1 year we increased our z/OS system images from 2 (1 production and 1 testing) to 6 (2 in production sysplex, 2 dev. and 2 test).

Re: One more about SYRES Sharing

2005-09-02 Thread Bruce Black
You don't mention whether you have MIM available to span ENQs across your plexes, so I'll presume that you don't. If that is correct, then you should NOT share a sysres across plexes since you will not have data set integrity from one plex to the next. Not true. Old GRS Ring mode (CTCs)

Re: One more about SYRES Sharing

2005-09-02 Thread Mark Zelden
On Fri, 2 Sep 2005 12:04:19 -0500, Tom Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Should I share SYSRES between sysplexes? I now that I can't share PDSE's outside a plex, so I will clone volumes with PDES, but.. what about the other O.S. and Software datasets?. Lucas, You don't mention whether you have

Re: One more about SYRES Sharing

2005-09-02 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Star mode is much more efficient than ring mode, but if you got multiple plexes, ring will work .. Ever see the poster/button with a snail (labelled: 'IMS') riding on a turtle (labelled: 'MVS')? With the snail yelling: 'Whe!'? Yes, ring will work. (8-{]} -teD In God we Trust! All others

Fw: One more about SYRES Sharing

2005-09-02 Thread Ted MacNEIL
-Original Message- From: Ted MacNEIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2005 19:39:45 To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: One more about SYRES Sharing Should I share SYSRES between sysplexes? ... You can't with GRS; you can with MIM (as long as its control file is not in a CF). Should

Re: One more about SYRES Sharing

2005-09-02 Thread Bruce Black
Ever see the poster/button with a snail (labelled: 'IMS') riding on a turtle (labelled: 'MVS')? With the snail yelling: 'Whe!'? Yes, ring will work. (8-{]} Maybe so, but several posts said that GRS can't do it, not doesn't do it well. For years, GRS ring was the only option, yet a lot

Re: One more about SYRES Sharing

2005-09-02 Thread Volker Bandke
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ted MacNEIL said the following on 09/02/2005 02:00 AM: |Star mode is much more efficient than ring mode, but if you got multiple | | plexes, ring will work | .. | | Ever see the poster/button with a snail (labelled: 'IMS') riding on a turtle