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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of james smith
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 3:43 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: [IBM-MAIN] Performance Question - Dynamic PAV
we have a customer panicking because an IBM presenter 'suggested' that
you
I agree with the IBM presenter. Cache will not make a difference unless
something changes the hit ratio. You really need one of the three varieties of
PAV if you are going to fold volumes at this ratio in an unplanned
manner.
Ron, the point is not whether you need PAV or not.
The IBM'r stated
Thx Ted. How does that information change my answer?
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 2:44 AM
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Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] Performance Question - Dynamic
Thx Ted. How does that information change my answer?
You said some sort ogf PAV.
The OP was asking about *HYPER* PAV.
You did not answer his question.
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 7:04 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] Performance Question - Dynamic PAV
Thx Ted. How does that information change my
Don't bust my gonads Ted!
I'm not busting anything.
You didn't answer the question.
Your original response was a timeline, not an answer.
My resonse was intended to state that hyper PAVs were not needed. Since it
wasn't a problem when -27's first came out, why is it a problem now?
Why do you
This exchange reminds me of some of the exchanges we used to have in the past
between people I won't mention (Partly because I forgot their names). Some of
the exchanges got heated. I know when I get comments I don't like, instead of
firing off a nasty reply (Ted - this wasn't nasty - I'm not
On Wed, 5 Nov 2008 16:33:38 +, Ted MacNEIL wrote:
Your original response was a timeline, not an answer.
My resonse was intended to state that hyper PAVs were not needed. Since it
wasn't a problem when -27's first came out, why is it a problem now?
That's not a logical response. HyperPAV
Ted, sometimes I think your posts are a little too picky. Unfortuneatly, Ron
always responds to your posts as in this thread.
To the list:
I'm sorry.
To Ron:
I neither accepted, nor rejected, your opinion regarding HYPER PAV's, since you
didn't express one in your original response.
You only
Yes it did, Ted. And you quoted it in your first reply to Ron.
This is the last I'm going to say on this.
But, Tom show me where that is, and I'll appologise.
The response I read stated that one of three types of PAV's was needed.
Nowhere, do I recall any statement on hyper PAVs in the response.
In a message dated 11/5/2008 11:36:58 A.M. Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Since, I didn't keep any of this thread, I am going by memory.
I think that's why God invented the archives. Check the archives for what
each of you two said. Copy and paste exact quotes of
I think that's why God invented the archives. Check the archives for what
each of you two said. Copy and paste exact quotes of one another. Then
apologize to each other, or else continue to carry on your feud, PRIVATELY.
Maybe I didn't read the answer correctly, but there's nothing
I think that's why God invented the archives.
For some reason, I'm not seeing Ron's posts in the archives,
not in Google Groups version of bit.listserv.ibm-main anyway.
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 14:51:02 -0500
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Performance Question - Dynamic PAV
Ted,
The first six words of the 2nd paragraph of my 1st response to James on this
thread:
I agree with the IBM presenter.
The first six quoted words of your response to me:
I agree with the IBM presenter.
Is there another way to say it?
Ron
Fine. You've now stated that.
we have a customer panicking because an IBM presenter 'suggested' that you
should not use Mod-27 devices for critical data UNLESS you have hyper PAV
installed as you are likely to see problems with IOSQ times. Not sure about
the validity of the comments so I thought I would seek out opinions on
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we have a customer panicking because an IBM presenter 'suggested' that you
should not use Mod-27 devices for critical data UNLESS you have hyper PAV
installed as you are likely to see problems
we have a customer panicking because an IBM presenter 'suggested' that you
should not use Mod-27 devices for critical data UNLESS you have hyper PAV
installed as you are likely to see problems with IOSQ times.
So called Mod-27's came out before HYPERPAV did.
Using them with cache and 'normal'
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