Re: Potent ial heresy regarding E and L m acros etc. (Was: WTO ABEND D23 help)

2010-11-23 Thread Peter Relson
For WTO TEXT= If "yore" is before SP4.1.0 (approx 1987) then "no", TEXT= was not available then. i.e., TEXT= was added in SP4.1.0. Peter Relson z/OS Core Technology Design -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access

Re: Potent ial heresy regarding E and L m acros etc. (Was: WTO ABEND D23 help)

2010-11-22 Thread Edward Jaffe
On 11/22/2010 1:07 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 12:16 PM, Edward Jaffe wrote: Have you tried using the TEXT= keyword? That should have worked. Was it available in days of yore? Depends on your definition of "yore". I don't remember it from (for example) MVS 3.8 or whe

Fw: Potent ial heresy regarding E and L m acros etc. (Was: WTO ABEND D23 help)

2010-11-22 Thread Tony's FRONTIER account
I have developed a genuine liking for these tennis match posts regarding topics I don't remotely understand. The use of the King's English has become the entertainment aspect that I find particularly challenging and amusing. I keep having to google words with which I will then amaze my circle

Re: Potent ial heresy regarding E and L m acros etc. (Was: WTO ABEND D23 help)

2010-11-22 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 22 Nov 2010 12:39:58 -0600, Mike Schwab wrote: >Can you do a CL64'initial text' for the definition and have the >execute definition overlay the initial text as needed? > IIRC, the problem arose because the ROUTCDE and DESC must follow snugly the message of unknown length. Yes, I could fak

Re: Potent ial heresy regarding E and L m acros etc. (Was: WTO ABEND D23 help)

2010-11-22 Thread Mike Schwab
Can you do a CL64'initial text' for the definition and have the execute definition overlay the initial text as needed? On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 12:16 PM, Edward Jaffe wrote: > On 11/22/2010 9:58 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: >> >> No, no, no!  I was referring not to the syntax of the macro instruction

Re: Potent ial heresy regarding E and L m acros etc. (Was: WTO ABEND D23 help)

2010-11-22 Thread Edward Jaffe
On 11/22/2010 9:58 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: No, no, no! I was referring not to the syntax of the macro instruction, but to the generated argument list to the SVC, which places options after the variable-length text string, requiring convolutions to supply a text string of unpredictable length i

Re: Potent ial heresy regarding E and L m acros etc. (Was: WTO ABEND D23 help)

2010-11-22 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 22 Nov 2010 17:44:00 +, john gilmore wrote: > > >I haven't coded a WTO lately. IIRC (much of) the cruft mentioned arises from >the unforgivable misdesign of placing options after a variable-length text >argument. It would have been so easy to do it right. > > >If this means what it ap

Re: Potent ial heresy regarding E and L m acros etc. (Was: WTO ABEND D23 help)‏

2010-11-22 Thread john gilmore
Paul Gilmartin writes: I haven't coded a WTO lately. IIRC (much of) the cruft mentioned arises from the unforgivable misdesign of placing options after a variable-length text argument. It would have been so easy to do it right. If this means what it appears to mean it reflects 'radical' ign